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Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:28 am

A friend of mine was about to purchase a Canon EOS 1D Mark II and the owner of the store pulled him aside and told him to wait a while longer, three months or so..........yet he wouldn't tell him any more.

I do understand that Canon and Nikon continue to come out with newer, greater, better, etc....models all the time, but does anyone have any knowledge to a new model that Canon is developing that would replace the Canon EOS 1D Mark II ???

He looked on a lot of photographer's forums and didn't find out any information so I told him I would post on this forum as well.

Thanks in advance for any insight.


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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:48 am

Wow! I was seriously considering picking up a 1DmkII also. Wait and see I guess. The rumors (if true) should start flowing soon then...
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:07 am

I love my EOS 1D Mark II and like my friend said, if and when they do announce another new camera, it will take 3 to 4 months, at the earliest to get it to market. He wants to buy a Mark II right now.

Seriously, go buy the Mark II. You'll love it !!

I do  Smile


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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:32 am

Not sure about the (mark) but a while ago someone posted a replacement for the 20D in here it was called the 20Da not sure where the link is but i also was interested in it.
Can anyone shed some light.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:00 am

The 20Da was just an infrared adapted 20D I think?


Canon needs to get off their butts to compete with the D2X. Lots of canonites making the switch at the mo  Smile
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
Canon needs to get off their butts to compete with the D2X.

LOL.... that made me chuckle.....I can't see Nikon seeing anything but the rear sled dog's view for a while yet.

Jay, the 'new' model will have some big shoes to fill to be a step up from the 1dMkII that is for sure. I think I'll wait and see what the specs will be, and maybe it will drop a few bucks.
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:15 pm

Hi all,

"Lots of canonites making the switch at the mo"

That made me laugh, set me up for the weekend Big grin

I was told by an a.netter that around September time a 20D replacement will be announced so to hold off for a few months if you are waiting

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:27 pm

There were rumors that Canon will introduce a new model which will be inbetween the 1D/M2 and the 20D but will replace neither. But some were saying that it will mostly hurt the 1D/M2 market and that's why they were offering a nice $500 rebate on it for the past few months in the US.

Remember though, these are just rumors and not from any Canon "insider".
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:56 pm

There are rumours of something between the the 1dMK and the 20D. But of course, since the SLR camera entered the digital playground, the lifecycle of new cameras is getting shorter and shorter. So, more or less, once every 1 or 2 years either Nikon and/or Canon will come out with something new. I would either buy now, what I want, despite the fact, that in three months it will be outdated, or wait until the replacement is announced to buy the older model for less money.

After all, a 20D, or a 1dMK will always be the same top cameras.

Oh, and BTW, I know three Nikonites, who completely switched to Canon, and only one Canonite who plans to use Nikon besides his Canon 1dMKII  Wink So much for the Canonites switching to the dark side  Wink

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:02 pm

I never heard anyone switch from Canon to Nikon...

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:15 pm

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 9):
I never heard anyone switch from Canon to Nikon...

There was such an incident a few months ago when I guy defected to Nikon. I saw it on CNN and it was major news on many networks as well Big grin
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:13 pm

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 9):
I never heard anyone switch from Canon to Nikon...

Jan
I heard of someone who was thinking about it.
The men in white coats came and took him away. The Doctor says that with help and medication he should make a full recovery.
I have actually heard of a few going from Nikon to Canon, and all since the digital revolution. There has never been much to choose between them in quality, except for personal choice....until digital when Canon have taken the lead.

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:08 pm

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 9):
I never heard anyone switch from Canon to Nikon...

Heh, just the other day, I talked to a photographer from the Tulsa World newspaper. She was covering the Oklahoma State Girls's Junior Tournament at the golf course I work at. She was shooting with a Nikon D1H. I asked her about it. She said the paper was about to switch to all Canon. Big grin

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:41 pm

This guy switched from Canon to D2X  Smile

http://www.jrgeoffrion.com/

The D2X has it all in one body, Canon has it all spread out on different bodies. But Canon are probably gonna up the ante come autumn.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:46 pm

I've thought about switching from Canon to Nikon, but yet for some reason I keep having second thoughts... maybe it's the L glass.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:54 pm

The shops here are talking of a Canon 1D MK III with 12mp sensor due the end of the year. Even though there is absolutely no information on the camera the shops are taking bookings.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:20 pm

Quoting Ejazz (Reply 15):
The shops here are talking of a Canon 1D MK III with 12mp sensor due the end of the year. Even though there is absolutely no information on the camera the shops are taking bookings.

Uhh Yeah.... There's a new one...12mp...err...1DmkIII...uhh...3,000USD....would you like to place a spot on the list....?

[dumbass customer]: Sure put me down for one, do you take Discover?
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:46 am

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 9):
I never heard anyone switch from Canon to Nikon...

The US Navy did. Dont know if or when they will switch back.
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:55 am

Quoting JayDavis (Thread starter):
A friend of mine was about to purchase a Canon EOS 1D Mark II and the owner of the store pulled him aside and told him to wait a while longer, three months or so..........yet he wouldn't tell him any more.

Interesting that any brick and mortar store owner would discourage someone from purchasing a $4000 camera body.

What about the 1Ds at 16MP?

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting Philhyde (Reply 18):
What about the 1Ds at 16MP?

Full frame sensor, the 1D has a 1.3 crop, which can be nice when needing a bit of extra range.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 17):
The US Navy did.

LOL Chad, you know how that works..... Lowest bidder does not mean best equipment.  Wink
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:48 am

I'm just hoping for a new Prosumer DSLR to succeed the 20D. I'm no longer pleased with the results of my 10D, but I don't want to get a 20D just to have it obsolete in months (which is what happened when I got the 10D).
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:00 am

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 21):
I'm no longer pleased with the results of my 10D

What's wrong with the 10D?
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:28 am

Well... We'll just wait and see... It's all speculation.
I'm not planning to replace my 10D just yet, heck, I paid 2000+ Euro's for it just over 2 years ago! And a 1000 Euro write-off per year would be more than what I pay for my car! That's insane when you think about it rationally. It's nowhere near the end of its life expectancy anyway. I'll skip a generation or two...  Smile (unless Canon comes out with something too good to be true)

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:47 am

10D obsolete?? Just look at some of the shots of some guys shooting with it!

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:56 am

For me, I'm just not happy with the results in terms of quality anymore.

....as it pertains to my own work.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:11 am

Well once you have used the 20D you will quickly see why its so superior to the 10D.
AI servo which works means an accurate AF system against fast moving objects.
Try a 20D and you will immediately see your hit rate for accurate AF go through the roof.
Not to mention the extra FPS,extra 2 MP more AF sensors etc etc.
I really cant see a reason to upgrade from the 20D when it does 90% of what a 1DMk2 does for 1/3 the price.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:54 pm

Reading this topic again, I ask myself, what I am still doing with my 3 year old D60. And then there is this EOS RT somewhere in the house, a film camera, bought in 1995 for my trip to Australia ....  Wink

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:37 pm

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 24):
10D obsolete?? Just look at some of the shots of some guys shooting with it!

Hopefully, including me (LOL)
Seriously though, the 10D is (still) a damned good camera and it is what, a whole three years old.
The most annoying thing about it is that damned delay if it has gone into sleep mode. Watching a subject come and go as that three seconds passes can seem an eternity.
I would change to a 20D for that reason, and that alone. For what most of us are doing, internet based aviation photography, the extra 2 Mp does not make a lot of difference.
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:43 pm

I am extremely happy with my EOS 1D Mark II and it will take a LOT of new features, plus a LOT of cash from me to change models.


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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:13 pm

Anything that usually gets announced, it shows up months beforehand on www.dpreview.com

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:19 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 17):
The US Navy did. Dont know if or when they will switch back.

At the International Fleet Review the photographer on board USS Saipan had a D70  boggled  even the cash strapped UK Navy had the D2X  Smile

All I can say is you Canon guys must enjoy upgrading at least Nikon make us wait and give us chance to save for an upgrade  duck 
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:52 am

Interesting stats I found in an article on dpreview. Sales of D-SLR's were 277,000 in 2003, 578,000 in 2004, and thru April of 2005 (not even half the year) 200,000....... No wonder the queue is so high!

60% of D-SLR's buyers are male, and average age 48 which is younger than the average buyer of a film SLR (52). Judging from the contributions on this database I'd say the average age is way, way, younger than 48!!!!!!  Wink

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:52 am

Hi all,

Just because new cameras come along regulaly with Canon, who says you have to upgrade anyway?

By having a new model released on a regular basis lowers the price of previous bodies faster than by realising fewer

  

"Judging from the contributions on this database I'd say the average age is way, way, younger than 48!!!!!!"

Very true, although Grandad Paul keeps the average higher  old 

Cheers

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:35 am

Quoting LGW (Reply 33):
By having a new model released on a regular basis lowers the price of previous bodies faster than by realising fewer

Meaning the one you just bought is now worthless, gotta love depreciation   

I say you youngsters have too much money these days, I remember way back when there was just the few of us who had DSLRs

I have to say that Canon probably has a better lens line up from the 100-400 down than Nikon, we desperately need a new technology 80-400 replacement. But above they are pretty similar, having tried a 300F2.8VR on a D2X at the weekend in HSC mode (2x crop) I need to see the bank manager  Wink

Paul not quite ready for   

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:42 am

Paul,

"I say you youngsters have too much money these days, I remember way back when there was just the few of us who had DSLRs"

I remember those days too, I got my DSLR in 2002!

 white 

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:26 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 20):
you know how that works..... Lowest bidder does not mean best equipment.

So they might switch back? lol.

Anyhow,

In the past 2 months I have been to Hong Kong and Malyasia and visited a few camera shops. They hadn't heard of any rumors for a 20D replacement yet.

I am planning on a 2nd body as well, soon, and right now its going to be the 20D. Unless the "40D" comes out  Smile Im a little bit scared that a 20D replacement might come out right after I buy it. I guess thats life. Timing is everything.
 
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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:11 am

Well, I know exactly, when the 20D successor will be announced. It will be the same day I g et my 20D ....  Wink

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RE: Any Rumor On A New Canon Digital Model?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:20 am

Hi all,

"Well, I know exactly, when the 20D successor will be announced. It will be the same day I g et my 20D ...."

I couldn't have put it better myself!  yes 

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