Stealthz
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Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:59 pm

Hi all,
This is something I have raised in other threads but it tends to get buried in the originating topic(rightly so).

Is it perhaps, time for A.net to consider accepting photos that have different aspect ratios to what have been tradiitionally considered correct. I am not saying A.net or the criteria are wrong, just asking for feedback.

*Our subject matter in many cases naturally fits into a wide format.

*The viewers, the general public, are increasingly purchasing widescreen televisions and becoming comfortable with that format.

*Increasingly shots, especially ground shots, are being rejected(or not submitted) because of the continued encroachment of fences etc into the airport environment.

A couple of examples....
Traditional 3x2 e.g. 1024x683 (these examples are 800x533)

http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/46556127.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/46556129.jpg

Widescreen 16x9 eg 1024x576 (these examples are 800x459)

http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/46556128.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/46556130.jpg

Just my thoughts, interested in hearing what others think.

Oh.. and before I get flamed for plugging my own shots, at this moment I have no intention of uploading these photographs.

Regards

Chris
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:42 pm

For avoiding fences it's good but don't really like this format. I even dislike it for Television.

Georg.
 
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:49 pm

Oh and something I omtted from original post, this should not be seen as a way of avoiding good composition or motiv, just another point of view.

Regards

Chris
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:50 am

I prefer to use the native format of the sensor/film in my camera. 3:2 is wide enough for me. I dislike the 4:3 ratio. But I agree that if someone was to shoot 6x6 for instance, they should be able to submit photos (without altering their original composition). But hardly anyone does I suppose so.  Smile
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:10 am

Quoting StealthZ (Thread starter):
Is it perhaps, time for A.net to consider accepting photos that have different aspect ratios

A.net have done so in the past and I have quite a few in the database.

For example


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Photo © Malcolm Clarke



The ratio in this case is 6 x 3.5 but one problem may be that non standard ratio's don't fit standard print sizes should you wish to offer prints for sale.
I certainly intend to re-upload some of mine at standard ratios with hopefully quality improvements at some future date.

Malcolm.
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:37 am

An interesting debate and one that had crossed my mind. Widescreen formats are probably going to be around for a while, certainly in TV, where it is probably here to stay and 4:3 is dead and buried. It's taking a bit longer to catch on in the PC fraternity though, possibly because most PC applications would benefit from more depth than width. But I would welcome the format on this site.

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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:45 am

 
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:33 am

To further restrict submissions only to "accepted" aspect ratios does a grave dis-service to aircraft photography.

Images should be cropped for maximum visual impact. Good and knowledgeable cropping is the hallmark of a thinking photographer.

I use a "widescreen" 1440 x 900 pixel laptop as my primary computer. None of the conventional 1024x768 images fill my monitor frame. So I ask you rhetorically, in light of new technology and visual display mediums, just what is now considered "normal"?

Crop for impact. Crop for what is visually appealing. To do less is a disservice to photography.

my dos centavos.

Steve

p.s. These were both shot with a Hasselblad at 6 x 6. If I was told to crop them to "fit" a preconceived norm, I'd simply pull the photos from the DB.


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Photo © Stephen Liard
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Photo © Stephen Liard

 
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:16 am

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 7):
To further restrict submissions only to "accepted" aspect ratios does a grave dis-service to aircraft photography.

I totally agree and see that photos do sometimes get onto the database outside the 'normal' format.
Square photos rarely work well for aviation photos but they can as photopilot demostrates so admirably with the example on the right.
If rules are applied too rigidly, they stifle creativity.
Rather than such a rigid application of the rules, this should be left to a screeners decision...if it looks right let it on no matter what the format
Mick Bajcar
 
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RE: Aspect Ratio.. Time For Change?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:36 am

Thanks all for the feedback,

A question for the screening team, would quality submissions in a wider format, 1024x576 or 1200x675 etc be rejected for badsize?

Regards

Chris
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