lhrmaccoll
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How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:54 pm

Got this image rejected yesterday....
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/aerlingus.jpg

[Edited 2005-07-25 09:55:55]
 
sfilipowicz
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:16 pm

Hi Alex,

First thing I noticed was 'badlevel' also I think it could get a 'baddark' rejections.
It would be better to shoot the aircraft on the sunny side.

I would bin it!

Good luck!

[Edited 2005-07-25 10:26:41]
 
mygind66
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:21 pm

What were the reasons for the rejection?

Enrique
 
lhrmaccoll
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:34 pm

The only reason was of course 'baddark'.
 
Psych
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:09 pm

Hello again Alex,

These are difficult shots to get accepted, due to the fact that the sun is illuminating the side of the aircraft that is not in view. As such, this 'backlighting' is always going to leave the main aspect of the subject in shadow. As the sunlight was bright for you that day, the shadows are rather dark. It then creates too much contrast overall.

Though you could try to lighten up the visible side of the aircraft in editing, the problem would then be that you brighten everything up (such as the nose and port wing/engine in your shot, which would then look overexposed). Selectively lightening the shot would be very difficult. Another problem is that artificially brightening aspects of the photo in shadow produces results where the quality starts to suffer - such as by creating grain.

I think there is little you will be able to do for this shot - though a nice photo. One to keep for your own collection I think.

All the best.

Paul
 
LIPH
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:36 pm

It will be baddark but is great shot man....

Regards
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mygind66
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:27 am

Quoting LIPH (Reply 5):
artificially brightening aspects of the photo in shadow produces results where the quality starts to suffer - such as by creating grain

If you use Photoshop CS there's a feature called 'Shadow/Highlight' very useful in these situations. Try to 'increase' (by moving the bar to the right) shadows from 1 to 5-10% and see the results.

Hope that helps Alex..

Enrique
 
mygind66
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:37 am

Alex..

I did some photoshop and see if the result suits you.
Equalizing the picture there's a very nice spot too....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/mygind66/aerlingusmodified.jpg


Enrique
 
DLKAPA
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RE: How Do I Get This Image Up To Scratch?

Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:14 am

I like these kinds of shots, and there's a little trick here. The only light that is hitting the backlit side of the aircraft is light that has reflected off other objects, for example you have a nice reflection of the wing and engine off the fuselage. Use the dodge tool, make one or two passes over the entire fuselage with the exposure set to around 15% and set to "midtones." Then, use the burn tool with the exposure set to 5% and "Shadows" and run it over the entire fuselage. Then, run the sharpen tool over the entire fuselage. Do this to the original before you use brightness/contrast and saturation layers, and you'll find that this shot will probably turn out very well.

If you need any more help, you can refer to this: http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/workflow.html
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