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Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:09 am

Just curious if anyone knows about spotting or photographing at Rio De Janeiro's airports?

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Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:29 am

No joke...go to Sugarloaf Mountain and you'll get great shots of aircraft departing SDU (Santos Dumont Airport). Here's a pic I took of a Rio Sul 737 as it departed and went around the mountain.


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Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:38 am

I second that. Ride the cable car up in the late afternoon, grab a cold guarana, and watch the planes take off from SDU as the sun sets over the city. Incredible!
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Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:42 pm

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As you can see, not a lot of words needed!

And that's from Planes coming in/out of SDU only. GIG is the international airport.

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Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:44 pm

And to add to that, the air conditioned restaraunt at SDU which overlooks the runway does the best peppered steak I have ever tasted!

When I was in Rio a few years ago I stayed at GIG in the terminal hotel. We usually did GIG in the morning (when it's busiest), touristy things in the afternoon and SDU for the evening rush hour. We never had any problems.
 
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Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:52 pm

This is my favourite photo...landing in SDU is just amazing!


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Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:35 am

@ GIG you have some good places at Ilha do Governador. @ SDU as already posted, there are a lot of places any none will interrupt you. Police protection is effective closer to SDU, on Sugar Loaf or on the street where you can reach the Naval School. Another good place is the top of "Torre Rio Sul", the tallest Rio's building.
For GIG, i will ask for some comments from our friend and photographer B. Andrade.

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:15 am

I was in Rio last year and my wife had to drag me away from the top of the sugarloaf, it was awesome. It is mostly 737 aircraft though. You will have to go to GIG to see more of a variety.
 
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:33 am

Another great view is from the high-speed ferry/boat that runs from Rio to Niteroi! (takes about 30min I think). I made this trip a couple of times and the airport views from the ferry/boat are excellent; the ferry moors in an area close to the airport and a better view is almost impossible!

Btw, beware that SDU is under reconstruction so I dont know whether the terrace is still open. Anyone knows whether the new SDU terminal will have an open air terrace?

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 8):
Btw, beware that SDU is under reconstruction so I dont know whether the terrace is still open. Anyone knows whether the new SDU terminal will have an open air terrace?

In fact the new terminal will be build in front of the parking area (which will be relocated and improved). The view will be not the same, but Infraero will grant us with all-glass terminal where, because they will use gates, users could keep a Fanstastic view of the patio, the sugar loaf and Guanabara Bay.

Can you imagine that... a better view !

See the Link on Infraero Website
http://www.infraero.gov.br/link_gera.php?lgi=85&menuid=aero
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:04 pm

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 4):
When I was in Rio a few years ago I stayed at GIG in the terminal hotel.

I stayed there a few weeks ago. Blast from the past! Back in the 60s. Slightly overpriced at R$178, but convenient though.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Police protection is effective closer to SDU, on Sugar Loaf or on the street where you can reach the Naval School

That would have to be a major consideration! Yesterday I took a hotel shuttle from Copacabana to GIG, and near the bus terminal in a traffic jam I witnessed a carjacking. It's a violent place, beautiful as it is, and I felt uncomfortable showing my "cheapish" EUR300 camera in public. As real spotter gear will cost much more, I really don't know how those guys whose pics are shown above managed not to have their gear stolen from them. Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

BTW to take (most of) the pics shown above you'd need a 500mm lens at least.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:46 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

I hardly think that anyone would buy a ticket to ride the cable car to the top of the mountain so that they could rob you of your camera and wait in line and descend the mountain via the cable car again. That will not happen.

As for spotting in Rio, I agree with the others. The view of SDU from the top of Pao De Acucar is great. Almost all 737's though, and a few TAM Airbus jets. Flying into SDU is an awesome experience.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:57 am

You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema  Smile
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:00 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
It's a violent place, beautiful as it is

I go on holidays to Rio every single year (at least twice a year)...never experienced any violence or crime. Most of the times I go with foreign friends and they always carry their cameras around. Maybe I'm lucky.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
Slightly overpriced at R$178, but convenient though.

The hotel rate of GIG Hotel is very reasonable. It would be very hard for you to find a hotel of the same level for less than that in Ipanema, for example.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:36 am

Quoting 123 (Reply 12):
You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:02 am

Quoting 123 (Reply 12):
You can deffinitively do some non-aviation "jet" spotting in Copacabana and Ipanema

Yes! Specially on some bars like Barril 1800 and others in front of Ipanema / Leblom beach. In fact the bar is a "Control Tower" and the runways is just in from of you... you will see Airbus 3500 and Boeing 7777. Perfect size for the market (body), economic (in clothes), very beautiful livery (face) and a fantastic service (smile)

That's why i love my city !  Smile


Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 10):
That would have to be a major consideration! Yesterday I took a hotel shuttle from Copacabana to GIG, and near the bus terminal in a traffic jam I witnessed a carjacking. It's a violent place, beautiful as it is, and I felt uncomfortable showing my "cheapish" EUR300 camera in public. As real spotter gear will cost much more, I really don't know how those guys whose pics are shown above managed not to have their gear stolen from them. Yes, Pao de Açucar is fine, but out in the open... well...

I'm sorry in the name of my city for the situation you faced. Be informed that it's something not usual on Touristic Areas. Police Protection and the feeling of protection is very high. I use to visit Sugar Loaf, Corcovado, Paineiras, Beaches like "Prainha" (more distant from Ipanema), places like Saint Tereza, and in 30 years of Rio, never hapen to me. Rio is unsafe on same north areas, but during the day is Ok. I can't imagine not to carry my bag/camera on Urca (where is the Sugar Loaf) and that's not only for the fact that it's a very calm place, it's surrounded by Militar Areas and in fact, Sugar Loaf is inside Army Area (and they are the oficial police there) and you will look and find at least 5 to 15 Soldiers taking care of the area, and could add some Tourist Police Officers. The Transit Hotel for Army Officials in Rio is there, also the two fortifications that protects Rio behind 1550-1675, now Army and Marines Area.
Rio Tourist Zone is protected by 14,000 policemans with 750,000 people.

Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:18 pm

Quoting HALFA (Reply 11):
hardly think that anyone would buy a ticket to ride the cable car to the top of the mountain so that they could rob you of your camera and wait in line and descend the mountain via the cable car again. That will not happen.

I should have expressed myself more clearly, I meant the same, in that Pao de Açucar is absolutely safe. Also heavily policed Centro (during office hours), and Urca - that was my favourite bit of Rio. I did see a mugging right in front of my Copacabana hotel though...

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 13):
The hotel rate of GIG Hotel is very reasonable. It would be very hard for you to find a hotel of the same level for less than that in Ipanema, for example

I agree that it'd be hard to find something for that price in Ipanema (although I got a R$140 room right at Copacabana, not bad at all). But this airport hotel, have you seen the rooms? Maybe 8m2 only, and no windows! But convenient for layovers (or spotters).

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Rio Tourist Zone is protected by 14,000 policemans

I noticed, I was glad they were there! I did have a fine time in Rio - apart from one bad hangover  Smile

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

Thanks a lot! I'd love to do that, as I haven't had the time to go Tijuca. I did go to other places and Brazil really has some of the most beautiful sites on the planet! (And more, re: Ipanema  Wink)
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Next time you visit Rio, i invite you for a Land Rover Cruise on Tijuca Forest. Something fascinating with a fantastic overview of the city.

May I consider myself invited as well?  Wink

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
I agree that it'd be hard to find something for that price in Ipanema (although I got a R$140 room right at Copacabana, not bad at all).

You got a good deal in Copa. Rio and Ipanema are notorious for the most expensive hotel rates in Brazil.... Sad If you go to NE Brazil hotel rates are about half the rate of Rio.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
). But this airport hotel, have you seen the rooms? Maybe 8m2 only, and no windows! But convenient for layovers (or spotters).

I have a report regarding the GIG Hotel (Luxor chain I think) from a work colleague. He had positive remarks about the hotel but also mentioned that rooms were really small (since he is Japanese no complains!  Smile But the airport hotel makes things much easier because a return taxi to airport-zona sul would cost about R$100. If you have a connecting fight early in the morning next day the hotel can be very practical.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
And more, re: Ipanema

I love Ipanema...it has the most beautiful airplanes on earth per m2... Wink

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Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:02 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
May I consider myself invited as well?

Of course my friend! You're my guest !

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
You got a good deal in Copa. Rio and Ipanema are notorious for the most expensive hotel rates in Brazil.... If you go to NE Brazil hotel rates are about half the rate of Rio.

I know some agencies in Rio that probably could get a better rate for Ipanema Hotels. The problem is that Ipanema has few hotels and high demand. The best Accor hotel in Brazil (and 70% are in Sao Paulo) is Sofitel Rio de Janeiro. Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits. I'd never saw any one changing chain in Rio. The problem is the lack of space for new hotels in Copa, Ipanema and Leblom. There's an old project that turns part of Copacabana Fort into a Hotel Area for 6 to 10 different buildings with at least 2,500 suites.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
and Urca - that was my favourite bit of Rio.

My family is looking for some place to live in Urca since the end of 2004, and it's very hard to find, none want to sell ! I love that "screen": Guanabara Bay, SDU, Sugar Loaf and the most calm place in the entire city.


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Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:49 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
The best Accor hotel in Brazil (and 70% are in Sao Paulo) is Sofitel Rio de Janeiro. Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ...

Note that all of them are in Copacabana!

Ipanema has a serious problems with hotels since there is virtually NO free space for construction which therefore leads to very high hotel rates. I think Ipanema/Leblon has the most expensive hotels rates in the entire of Brazil (especially if you take into account what you pay and what you get). The only major international chains in Ipanema/Leblon are Golden Tulip (which is a new development) and Caesar Park (correct?) while Copacabana has plenty of major hotels chains as you indicated...this is a big puzzle for me....it must be related to scarcety of land and extremely high prices of real state, not to mention that real estate prices in Ipanema are dollarised (US dollar equivalent) because of the high influx of foreign tourists and expats...

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Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:18 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
Ipanema has a serious problems with hotels since there is virtually NO free space for construction which therefore leads to very high hotel rates. I think Ipanema/Leblon has the most expensive hotels rates in the entire of Brazil (especially if you take into account what you pay and what you get). The only major international chains in Ipanema/Leblon are Golden Tulip (which is a new development) and Caesar Park (correct?) while Copacabana has plenty of major hotels chains as you indicated...this is a big puzzle for me....it must be related to scarcety of land and extremely high prices of real state, not to mention that real estate prices in Ipanema are dollarised (US dollar equivalent) because of the high influx of foreign tourists and expats...

You're right about Ipanema, also Copacabana is three times bigger than Ipanema where there are no land available for new hotels . Caesar and Golden Tulip are the only, plus about 10 hotels from non famous chains (all very expensive).

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Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:35 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
I have a report regarding the GIG Hotel (Luxor chain I think) from a work colleague

That explains it! I didn't stay in the Luxor, but in the "Pousada Hotel" inside the old part of the terminal. I checked the Luxor, but it cost much more.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits.

I stayed in one of the Othons (the Olinda). Nice place!

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
I love that "screen": Guanabara Bay, SDU, Sugar Loaf and the most calm place in the entire city.

The view on SDU was great. I've never seen a plane climbing at the same altitude (or below) that I was standing at, together with other people, a few trees and a cable car station  Smile
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:16 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
Caesar and Golden Tulip are the only, plus about 10 hotels from non famous chains (all very expensive).

Lipe: we forgot the Best Western (Sol Ipanema) and, of course, the Sheratton (which is at the end of Leblon and has a private beach) on the road towards Barra, overlooking Ipanema.


Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 21):
but in the "Pousada Hotel" inside the old part of the terminal

Interesting, I did not know that there was another hotel at the old terminal...

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
also Copacabana is three times bigger than Ipanema

Copa is much more known with foreign tourists than Ipanema...(btw, in your list of hotels in Copa you forgot the most well known one: Copacabana Palace, which is part of the chain Leading Hotels of the World).

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:40 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
Copa is much more known with foreign tourists than Ipanema...(btw, in your list of hotels in Copa you forgot the most well known one: Copacabana Palace, which is part of the chain Leading Hotels of the World).

Hardi, in fact i never forget "O Copa" (like we say in Rio) just because it's a First Level Hotel, Top of the Top and keep with a King Service. Building is amazing, service is fantastic and the atmosphere there, looks fantastic. But you're right on your comment. Sorry for that.


Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22):
Lipe: we forgot the Best Western (Sol Ipanema) and, of course, the Sheratton (which is at the end of Leblon and has a private beach) on the road towards Barra, overlooking Ipanema.

Right again. Also, Barra da Tijuca with a new Sheraton (the second in Rio) and some new developments is a new tourist frontier (and most of Pan American Games will take place there)

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 21):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
Marriot Rio is also the top, Pestana, Meridien, Othon ... all have very huge numbers & profits.

I stayed in one of the Othons (the Olinda). Nice place!

Othon Family and Hotels are friendly and with reasonable fares. They start to lift their top hotel, Othon Palace in the End of Copacabana Beach, very close to "Posto 6"

Good news for Rio: Tam will start a new service GIG-IGU @ about 10/11 am with return about 6/7 PM. It's the first JJ flight from Rio to South without stop in CPQ/GRU/CGH. Also this flight will be operated REC-SSA-GIG-IGU, improving service to northeast too. The very first signal from JJ that GIG one day could become more important to them.

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:56 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 23):
They start to lift their top hotel, Othon Palace in the End of Copacabana Beach, very close to "Posto 6"

Bom Dia Felipe,

What do you mean by this? To "lift their top hotel"? Are they remodeling? Raising the building? I stayed at this hotel 3 years ago and it is in great need of renovation but the service and staff were top notch and the views of Copacabana Beach from my room on the 28th floor were the best of all hotels I have stayed at in Rio.
Since that visit, I have stayed at the Sofitel, Marriott, and Arpoador Inn which was a great location and good value.
Now when I visit your city, I stay in an apartment in Posto 6, and watch the planes leaving SDU for CGH.

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:08 pm

Soundtrack: great thread!!!

As my holidays are slowly approaching I was about to start the same thread as I will be in Rio for 2 weeks in Nov. (Act my trip will be CDG-HAV-EZE-GIG-CDG).

Fortunatly a friend of mine is living and working in Rio and therefor I do not need a hotel there.

Question: Is spotting permited at all places, or should I be careful in particular places?
 
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:22 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 23):
The very first signal from JJ that GIG one day could become more important to them.

Indeed, they cannot hide the fact that in the first semester of 2005 GIG had an amazing pax traffic growth of 68% (while for the same period overall Brazil pax traffic growth was of 17% and in GRU 22%).

As we discussed before, GIG will see a steady increase in traffic both domestic and international due to the relocation of flights from SDU to GIG. It shows that the decision to relocate flights was correct.

Quoting HALFA (Reply 24):
What do you mean by this? To "lift their top hotel"? Are they remodeling? Raising the building?

Yes, Othon management decided to change management of the hotel and make a multi-million investment to renovate the building. Othon Leme will also be completely renovated.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 25):
(Act my trip will be CDG-HAV-EZE-GIG-CDG).

Interesting. I assume you are flying AF CDG-HAV and GIG-CDG. What airline are you using for HAV-EZE and EZE-GIG?

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:27 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 26):
Interesting. I assume you are flying AF CDG-HAV and GIG-CDG. What airline are you using for HAV-EZE and EZE-GIG?

Yes AF (maybe KL to HAV but don´t know yet) HAV-EZE will be CU and this flight is a IL 62!!!. EZE-GIG either JJ or RG or maybe by bus. I have until next week to decide.
 
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:18 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 26):
Yes, Othon management decided to change management of the hotel and make a multi-million investment to renovate the building. Othon Leme will also be completely renovated.

That is good news. They are both in need of renovation along with a few other Othon Hotels there. Will the hotel (Othon Palace) still be in operation during renovations?

One more thing Hardiwv,
Are you in Amsterdam? I will be there for just one day next month. What would you recommend I do or see. I will only have about 5 hours and then must return to my ship in Rotterdam. My friends here tell me I should go window shopping.  Smile

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:05 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 27):
EZE-GIG either JJ or RG or maybe by bus

GOL has excellent fares for this route:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 28):
Will the hotel (Othon Palace) still be in operation during renovations?

Yes, the renovation will be gradual, I think in a floor-by-floor basis, so while some floors will be closed others will still be open.

Quoting HALFA (Reply 28):
Are you in Amsterdam? I will be there for just one day next month. What would you recommend I do or see. I will only have about 5 hours and then must return to my ship in Rotterdam. My friends here tell me I should go window shopping.

Yes, I'm based in AMS. 5h is more okay to walk around the city. Amsterdam is small and very compact city. Go to Museum Plein and walk along one of the canals: I suggest walking along Prinsengracht Canal. Of course, window shopping in the Red Light District is open 24h!
( Visit http://www.holland.com/us/)
Another alternative is a canal boat tour, which last about 1h and will give you an overview of the city! (If you have time we could meet for a cup of coffee as I work close to the city centre. Drop me a message!).

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:40 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 23):
Good news for Rio: Tam will start a new service GIG-IGU @ about 10/11 am

Interesting, so it'll compete head-on with the RG flight. I took that RG flight some weeks ago, and instead of one 757-operated flight as my ticket mentioned, there were two 737 flights within half an hour of each other.

It's good to see that TAM is moving towards more direct flights because their schedule (and Gol even more so) can be a bit dreary with all those stops....
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting HALFA (Reply 24):
What do you mean by this? To "lift their top hotel"? Are they remodeling? Raising the building? I stayed at this hotel 3 years ago and it is in great need of renovation but the service and staff were top notch and the views of Copacabana Beach from my room on the 28th floor were the best of all hotels I have stayed at in Rio.

[quote=Hardiwv,reply=29]Yes, the renovation will be gradual, I think in a floor-by-floor basis, so while some floors will be closed others will still be open.

Like Hardi said, Othon will keep the service at Othon. Also, they have realocated Othon Fortaleza from a old building to a very modern one (previous Sol Melia). They stop loosing money since 2001 and last year decided to invest in all the hotels during the next 2-3 years. Othon is an important part of Rio's History, and the biggest Rio Hotel Chain (also probably Brazilian nr 1).

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 29):
Quoting OHLHD (Reply 27):
EZE-GIG either JJ or RG or maybe by bus

GOL has excellent fares for this route:

In fact RG fares are nowadays very good and it's with AR the only with Non-stop service GIG-EZE (JJ and G3 stops in GRU).

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 25):
As my holidays are slowly approaching I was about to start the same thread as I will be in Rio for 2 weeks in Nov. (Act my trip will be CDG-HAV-EZE-GIG-CDG).

Wow, i'm just curious about the AF 744 NEV used on GIG-CDG (and also with the very high loads they obtain in the route), i expect to see your trip report  Smile In fact i'm just trying to book my World Cup 2006 Trip to Germany thru AF GIG-CDG flights (or buying LH tickets for GIG-FRA on RG flight).

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RE: How Is Rio For Spotting - Any Advice?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:24 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 25):
As my holidays are slowly approaching I was about to start the same thread as I will be in Rio for 2 weeks in Nov. (Act my trip will be CDG-HAV-EZE-GIG-CDG).

Be my guess for a chopp at Ipanema Beach ! Please send me a message at time of your travel. It will be a pleasure.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 30):
It's good to see that TAM is moving towards more direct flights because their schedule (and Gol even more so) can be a bit dreary with all those stops....

With the code-share AF/DL/G3 (and probably Copa + Continental in the future), GIG probably will be in the future the Sky Team Hub for domestic connections in Brazil. Also, Gol has confirmed its intention to improve GIG service as loads there are all times higher than Gol's Average. Recife and Navagantes probably in the near future will be two non stop destinations added on Gol's Network. TAM is facing a lack of aircraft to expand services on GIG, but they are trying to move some charter flights from CGH to CPQ and some of them will stop on GIG. RG also will improve service to BSB (with 1 more flight), EZE (now two flights with 734), CNF (replacing 735 with 733) and to NAT/FOR (one more flight with 733), confirming the second GIG-BSB-MAO flight (at night while GRU lost the nonstop 738 flight MAO-GRU-ASU-COR).
GIG is the only one major operation with availability and the best aircraft in terms of structure (2 operational runways, 2 terminals). Access thru Red-Line/Yellow-Line is safer nowadays.
So.... 65% increase in pax as Hardi stated, a huge improvement.
DL will start ops in 60 days, IB will increase in 90 days. AF/DL partnership can bring a second AF flight and can take Delta to realocate some frequencies ATL-GRU to GIG.

Rgds,
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RE: How Is Rio For Spotting - Any Advice?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:39 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 32):
Be my guess for a chopp at Ipanema Beach ! Please send me a message at time of your travel. It will be a pleasure.

Thx, I will definitly drop you a note, before leaving for GIG.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 31):
i expect to see your trip report

I will try my best to post it!!  Silly

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