dc10tim
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How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:31 pm

Hi everyone,

I've been having a few problems with viruses on my laptop computer recently and have had to get the hard-drive formatted.

When everything has been re-installed, I've noticed that the colours on the monitor seem very subdued.

How can I tell quickly whether or not they are accurate? Some photos look fine, but others really dark. I have tried unsuccessfully to use the calibration program before and I'm a bit scared of messing things up using it and not being able to get back to suare one, or accurately determine what are the correct settings.

Regards,

Tim.
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fergulmcc
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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:38 pm

Sorry I can't help much Tim but the only one I know is the Adobe Gamma one which is quite good.

Take care

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:59 pm

I find that a laptop isn't the best place to edit in the first place anyways! fluffy 

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:23 pm

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 1):
the only one I know is the Adobe Gamma one which is quite good.

This might sound like a daft question, but what/where is this? And how does it work?

Tim.
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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:27 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 3):
what/where is this? And how does it work?

Hi Tim,

After installing Photoshop, you will have Adobe Gamma by default. And you could find it in the 'Control Panel'.

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:27 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 3):
This might sound like a daft question

No such thing as a daft question Tim.  Smile

Click: Start>Settings>Control Panel

It comes with your Photoshop, when you install Elements or any other PS and it places it there in Control Panel. Just follow the instructions and you should be ok.

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:28 pm

Open the Control Panel, program should be in there

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:32 pm

Hi Fergul,

I'm faster than you 15 seconds.  biggrin  I'm sure if I wrote one more sentence, you would be prior to me.

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:36 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 7):
I'm faster than you 15 seconds.

Ha ha ha,  box  Big grin yes but mine is more detailed Bubbles, its all in the detail mate  Smile

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:36 am

Tim
Make sure that your colors are set correctly.
1-Go to your desktop find an empty space
2_ right click on the desktop click properties.
3-go to the last tab on the top of the box and click on settings.
4-make sure that the colours are set at the highest settings.
Example 16bit or 32bit.
Anything below that would look off color.
Hope that helps.
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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:59 am

OK thanks guys,

I have found 'S3 Gamma Plus' in Display Properties > Settings > Advanced

There isn't any indication as to what to do though. All sorts of things to mess with, but how do I know if the colour is correct? Is it just down to personal preference?

I can see myself spending ages here arsing about and not getting anything looking right  

Regards,

Tim.

Edit: I'm set on 32bit too.

[Edited 2005-08-11 02:02:17]
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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:48 pm

Quoting LHRsunriser (Reply 2):
I find that a laptop isn't the best place to edit in the first place anyways!

Actually my monitor has a high-def LCD widescreen...great for editing photos. I would even venture to say that it rivals the $750 Sony LCD that I bought for my office just 6 months ago.

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 1):
one I know is the Adobe Gamma one which is quite good.

I've never had much luck getting this calibration program to work. The part with the three colored squares...I can never get the lines to disappear. They don't seem to really change at all when I move the slider(s).

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:35 pm

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 11):
The part with the three colored squares...I can never get the lines to disappear. They don't seem to really change at all when I move the slider(s).

It can be tricky alright but if you squint a bit it helps a bit.

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:38 pm

Fergul, once again, is bang-on.

It's virtually impossible unless you do squint - it's the only way you can see the colours blending.

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:48 pm

I've just had a look at this thing now in daylight.

There are 3 dials that control Gamma, Brightness and Contrast. These can be done for the three colours individually, or for RGB altogether.

There is a box with an image in it to see what is happening. This can be set to the 'Calibration Image', which is a bowl of fruit, or there are several graphs, colour maps, or you can have the individual colours on their own at 100% or 75% (what does this mean?).

Basically how should I start?  boggled 

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RE: How To Tell If The Monitor Is Correct?

Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:10 pm

Tim,

I'm not sure that's Adobe gamma - it's quite possible you may not have installed it, I didn't with PS 7.0. Read the helpfile in PS to see how it's done (I can't quite remember; it's not hard).

Keep it simple. Use the RGB adjustment first - it's easiest. There should be a brightness adjustment graphic as well (A dark grey box within a black frame) - use your monitor brightness control to adjust that.


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