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New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:58 am

Hello photographers,

A lot of you have expressed concern that your photos uploaded in high quality to Airliners.net can be be used commercially without your permission. Many voices have been raised that a feature should be added where a photographer can choose to include a visible watermark in his photos to deter misuse: Watermarks....protecting Our Images Against Theft (by AKE0404AR Jun 2 2005 in Aviation Photography)

This feature has now been implemented. My personal opinion is that the loss is often bigger than the gain when it comes to watermarks. Hundreds of thousands of people visit Airliners.net to enjoy the photos and all these have to endure a watermark. While it might prevent theft, misuse is relatively rare. Most companies choose to contact the photographer for permission even if there is no watermark.

I still chose to add this feature as I hope photographers that have not dared to upload to us in the past for fears of misuse will now choose to upload. I therefore hope that the overall effect is positive.

Please note that First Class Members will still have access to the photos without a watermark.

Please have a look at the new feature and let me know what you think:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/add.main

Thanks,
Johan
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:08 am

Johan,

Is there any way we could see an example of how it would look like? And why the privilege of the "no watermark" not for all membrers?

How many photographs would put it on theirs? Of course it's rageing to see our pics being stolen, but looking at pics will maybe no longer be as cool...

Quoting Administrator (Thread starter):
My personal opinion is that the loss is often bigger than the gain when it comes to watermarks.

I totally agree!

Cheers, Philippe

[Edited 2005-08-19 03:10:23]
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:14 am

Johan,

I think this is a good move. I especially like the idea of picking your own spot and strength of the watermark and as well the idea that the photog can decide if he wants to apply it.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:16 am

I agree that I'd like to see a sample image first.

I notice that the darkness of the watermark can also be varied.

Can you prepare a sample image with light, medium, strong, very strong watermarks so we get an idea what we're doing.

Also, what happens to all the existing photos in the DB if we decide we want a watermark? Do we have to re-submit and reupload every one of our images?

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 3):
Also, what happens to all the existing photos in the DB if we decide we want a watermark? Do we have to re-submit and reupload every one of our images?

I assume that, just like changing the copyright bar when you change your photographer name, you'll have to reupload all your photos.

I'm not really looking forward to seeing watermarks on photos here, but at least it's optional.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:30 am

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 3):
I'd like to see a sample image first.

You can test it on any image in the database here:
http://www.airliners.net/static/delme.php

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:31 am

Johan.

Thank you.


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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:33 am

Thanks Johan. Even though it does not make too much difference if it's light, I'd really like to see the possibility to see it without to all members...
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:45 am

Why could you not have an airliners.net watermark that appears on all photos, but only when the photo is downloaded?
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:48 am

Ugh, disappointed.  

I really hope the majority of photographers decide not to use this "feature". I know I won't.

Thanks for at least making it optional.

A346Dude

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:52 am

mmm,

Not convinced on this one, I agree with Johan I am not sure the gain is worth it...
I find it incongruous that a site with uncompromising standards on quality, near invisible dustspots, and motiv can support the vandalising of images with blatant watermarks.(and I mean some of the contributors rather than the management)
Sure there are photographers that have had pictures misappropriated, some of those have been compensated afterwards(a sale they would NOT have made). It is likely that many of the photographers here that are vocal about illegal use of their work would not have any sales at all if it were not for the exposure on A.net.
There is also the possibility the sites that really "steal" photos will continue to do so.

It is the high quality of images on A.net that keeps people coming back.. I think if a large percentage of contributors utilise the watermark option many of those will not return.

Having said that... like the comments thing, lets give it a try(although the comments issue does not impact the quality of the db)

Regards

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:40 am

Well I've tried it and have this suggestion.

Have the thumbnail state which images are watermarked prior to having to open the image. Then I won't be wasting my time looking at images that are ugly.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:41 am

Quoting Administrator (Thread starter):
Please note that First Class Members will still have access to the photos without a watermark.

What does paying for a first class membership to get a username and post in the forums have to do with viewing the image without a watermark?

Can we add that same watermark to the original image prior to uploading? So it is on all versions viewed, either by non-members or first class members?

Is there a method to add this to all of our privious photos?

[Edited 2005-08-19 04:42:02]
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:45 am

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 11):
Have the thumbnail state which images are watermarked prior to having to open the image. Then I won't be wasting my time looking at images that are ugly.

Agreed. Is this possible, Johan?
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:49 am

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 13):
Is this possible, Johan?

Dude, read his first post......... Wink Can't get much clearer.

Quoting Administrator (Thread starter):
Please note that First Class Members will still have access to the photos without a watermark.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:23 pm

Absolutely 100% against this - I've just tried that sample page and they look horrible!
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:30 pm

No, this is just another step in the wrong direction for airliners.

Oh boo hoo. Some flight simmer made a banner out of my photo. Oh no, my photo is on a site that provides info about aircraft. All without my permission. Oh the world is going to end!
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:34 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 12):
What does paying for a first class membership to get a username and post in the forums have to do with viewing the image without a watermark?

I assume it's mostly to create another benefit for first class membership. It's probably pretty safe too, since I wouldn't expect someone who's paying for A.net membership to be stealing photos.

After looking at the samples, I'm not happy with this feature. It really isn't nice to have big watermarks across photos. Even the lightest ones are distracting.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:36 pm

I don't think it's a right step. Images are ruined.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:17 pm

I really dont like it, because the watermarks are way too big, they ruin defintely the photo, even in light.
why cant people choose on their own, if they put their "own" small watermark on their shot? then will are also getting rid of that discussion with the 1st class memebership?

get me?

Robin

[Edited 2005-08-19 08:18:00]
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:50 pm

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 9):
I really hope the majority of photographers decide not to use this "feature". I know I won't.

Which means you will have to sign up for first class membership  Sad

This move is a success for the vocal minority that use the site to conduct their business. It is a shame that it has been foisted on the rest of us who are pure hobbyists.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:15 pm

Yuck! How could any so-called 'photographer' be prepared to showcase his/her work here with watermarks like these splashed across them? Where is the logic in doing that?

As I said on the previous thread, realistically just *how* many photos are stolen? It is a very small proportion indeed and this is a classic case of degrading the high standards of quality for 99% of honest A.Net viewers in order to put off the 1% who are less scupulous.

At least it is optional I suppose...

 ghost 

PS: I have had 2 images 'misused' out of 1099 in the database so I make that an 0.182% dishonesty ratio  Smile
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:39 pm

Johan, All,

Great function. Glad it is optional. A few people will be happy now. But I choose not to use it.  Smile

I want visitors to enjoy my photography! That's my motivation for uploading in the first place.



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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting Willo (Reply 20):
Quoting A346Dude (Reply 9):
I really hope the majority of photographers decide not to use this "feature". I know I won't.

Which means you will have to sign up for first class membership

Not quite sure this is true.

As I interpret it, he is saying that as a photographer he will select the "no watermark" option when he uploads...as will I.

Then our shots will not be watermarked whoever is viewing them.

I think that's right...  Smile

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:24 pm

Not a huge amount of support for this option!!

A vocal minority have requested it and it happened.
At least it is optional, perhaps an alternative would be to let the minority use their own watermark, with easy to implement guidelines. I accept this would place extra load on the screeners.(a very bad thing!!)

Perhaps another alternative is for the minority that use A.net as a way of running their business to find another way of gaining the free exposure gained via A.nets huge audience. I venture to suggest any alternative method of gaining that exposure will cost significantly more than the few "stolen" images.(and likely still result in "stolen" images)

I accept that it is the photographers and their work that "makes" A.net but I feel some may be biting the hand that feeds them.

Regards

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:35 pm

I do not understand why all of you guys are so upset about this feature?! The thread Johan linked in the 1st posting explains everything why it was implemented.

Again, it's optional, so no reason to whine around here if you don't like it! Just don't use it.

Some photographers want their photos be protected against theft, I see nothing wrong with that! Glad it's done now.

I won't use it, though.
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:50 pm

Quoting JetTrader (Reply 23):
he is saying that as a photographer he will select the "no watermark" option when he uploads...as will I.

My apologies, wrong interpretation of the original post! Having just checked the upload page I see that the watermark option is available to all photographers and not just first class members. A346 and I will have to upgrade our membership to view pictures without the watermark. My other comment still stands.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:58 pm

I've said this before hopefully someone will agree with me this time

instead of hiding the photograph usage in the 'about' section where if someone steals a photograph they come out with 'oh well I just didn't look there'

put a clear message between the photograph and the photocomment on the large/medium photographs or at the very top just above the photograph so the viewer see's it as soon as they open the page that states

''this photograph is copyrighted to XXXXX you may not use this without permission in doing so this will result in legal action, please contact the photographer to gain permission''

or whatever I'm not a lawyer. That way everyone knows exactly what they are getting into if they have plans on stealing without having to ruin our photographs.

if you can have watermarks as an option i think it would be nice to have that as an option aswell

I would rather have that between the photograph and comment rather than the rating and voting system as its getting cluttered it would be better if they were under the photographers comment box
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:23 pm

Yuck Yuck Yuck. Well Done in the effort Johan. But we have the option those who want it have it those that dont dont. I wont be having it.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:01 pm

Gary,

"put a clear message between the photograph and the photocomment on the large/medium photographs "

"That way everyone knows exactly what they are getting into if they have plans on stealing without having to ruin our photographs"


It is naive to think these people don't know the rules and what they are getting into, they all know what they are doing and the consequences, they just don't give it a second thought as they assume they will never be caught.

The use of peer-2-peer free mp3 downloads is a good analogy; everyone knows it is illegal, wrong and the consequences but most people believe they will never get caught to therefore just do it anyway.

Johan has provided us with a useful tool, it is now down to personal preference whether or not to implement it; the way life should be, give people choice and the power to make their own decisions and let them get on with it.

I personally will not be using the new feature, but, if I get a photo stolen and used without permission from now on then I know that it is partly down to me as I chose not to make use of a feature which exists.

Cheers

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:29 pm

Quoting JetTrader (Reply 23):
As I interpret it, he is saying that as a photographer he will select the "no watermark" option when he uploads...as will I.

That is correct. Sorry for any confusion.
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:54 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 14):
Dude, read his first post......... Can't get much clearer.

Jeff, I have no idea what you're talking about. Johan's original post stated First Class members would still have access to the non-watermarked images. I asked if Photopilot's idea that watermarked images would be differentiated from non-watermarked images, for example some sort of recognizable symbol that could be seen as one surfs the database, could be implemented.

Two very different things.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:02 pm

Hi all

Words of wisdom from Ben P.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:35 pm

Quoting United737522 (Reply 16):
Some flight simmer made a banner out of my photo. Oh no, my photo is on a site that provides info about aircraft. All without my permission. Oh the world is going to end!

Well maybe the world won't end, but I for one would be extremely aggrevated if any of my photos were used in any way without my permission. I don't work for free, and if any of my hobbies turn into something that might bring me money or recognition, I sure as hell would want to take full advantage of this. I have spent a lot of money and time getting the photos that i have accepted to the database...my photos aren't for free!!

I think the watermarks are a great idea...if you don't like it, don't use it!
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:38 pm

Quoting LGW (Reply 29):
It is naive to think these people don't know the rules and what they are getting into, they all know what they are doing and the consequences, they just don't give it a second thought as they assume they will never be caught.

they will still try and say 'oh sorry I didn't know, I didn't go to that bit' with it buried in the About section

with the words legal action staring them in the face maybe they will give it a second thought.

Would just be something more than nothing if we choose to opt out of the watermark
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:00 pm

Disappointing to see this ugly feature implemtented just because a dozen out of several thousands of photographers requested it.

I hope any photo with a watermark gets clearly marked on the photo results page so that visitors see what they will click on. An option to exclude watermarked photos from the search page would also be very helpful.

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:10 pm

Thomas,

An interesting concept... I wonder if some of those that insisted on watermarks would be so happy if they were excluded from searches etc!

As it's an option.. we will see what the take up is!!

cheers

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:15 pm

United737522 calls a plumber to his house and says thanks for fixing my toilet good day. Well, says the plumber:"Do I get paid" no says United737522, I don't pay. Mor did I pay my electrician...

I FIND IT AMAZING that United737522 lists his occupation as a photographer. How do you $urvive without charging your customers.

Ryan, let me give you some good advice. Your good work does busine$$ for some company?? YOU CHARGE!

EXCELLENT ----->>>OPTION<<<--- BY JOHAN!

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:19 pm

Yick,

I wont be using it, Ruins the photo in my opinion,

Thanks anyway Johan and thanks for the optional feature Big grin
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:30 pm

JOHAN,
Can I just flip a switch on a certain photo??...or do I have to re upload??
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:32 pm

Quoting TS (Reply 35):
Disappointing to see this ugly feature implemtented just because a dozen out of several thousands of photographers requested it.

A dozen? Do you mean like a bakers dozen or a regular dozen? Like 12? Out of several thousand?

Sorry, but quite an exaggeration....
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:39 pm

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 27):
''this photograph is copyrighted to XXXXX you may not use this without permission in doing so this will result in legal action, please contact the photographer to gain permission''

This makes me laugh....I would bet less then 1/10th of the folks with photos on here have the financial means to hire a lawyer and try and prove loss of income from a copyright infringement of one of their photos. A few hours of a lawyers time is not cheap, and if you were to lose, you would most likely be liable for the court fees and the fees of the supposed thief. There is much more to that procedure then many understand.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:47 pm

Quoting Tappan (Reply 37):
Ryan, let me give you some good advice. Your good work does busine$$ for some company?? YOU CHARGE!

Well said...my thoughts exactly!
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:48 pm

Hey guys,

I share your view that watermarks will somewhat lower the enjoyment for the viewers even though I have spent considerable time to make it as unobtrusive as possible.

Remember that this is an option. I am certain most photographers will keep uploading their photos without adding a watermark.

I added this feature because I am hoping we will see photos on Airliners.net that we would not have seen if it wasn't for the watermark feature. There's a large number of great aviation photographers out there that don't put their work on the Internet due to fear of misuse. These will be encouraged to upload to Airliners.net.

Quoting Tappan (Reply 39):
Can I just flip a switch on a certain photo??...or do I have to re upload??

The re-upload page has not yet been fitted with this feature, stay tuned.

Regards,
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:52 pm

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 40):
A dozen? Do you mean like a bakers dozen or a regular dozen? Like 12? Out of several thousand?

Yes, I was referring to a dozen equalling 12. Maybe the number was 15, but that's still a tiny (but loud-voiced) minority.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 25):
Again, it's optional, so no reason to whine around here if you don't like it! Just don't use it.

Do you always dismiss differing opinions as "whining," young man? The optionality argument is quite interesting to me. Photographers who wanted to have a watermark but didn't get one so far actually didn't need to upload their photos to this website. Uploading is optional. Big grin

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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:08 pm

Quoting Tappan (Reply 37):
Ryan, let me give you some good advice. Your good work does busine$$ for some company?? YOU CHARGE!

Totally agree with you Mark...and it hurts everyone else when he practices this.

The only time I ever think about giving away a free photo/use is when I am given the opportunity to fly with the Air Guard, or if someone goes out of their way to give me special opportunities.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:09 pm

Quoting Administrator (Reply 43):
The re-upload page has not yet been fitted with this feature, stay tuned.

Cannot it be applied to the photos already in database? Since we are able to test the feature on any photo I would think it should be possible.
 
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:13 pm

Quoting Danny (Reply 46):
Cannot it be applied to the photos already in database? Since we are able to test the feature on any photo I would think it should be possible.

Every re-save of a jpeg image lowers the quality of the image. The photo should be re-uploaded from the original too keep the quality high and file size small.

Regards,
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:26 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 41):
This makes me laugh....I would bet less then 1/10th of the folks with photos on here have the financial means to hire a lawyer and try and prove loss of income from a copyright infringement of one of their photos

and how do the people stealing them know which photographers have the means to hire a lawyer.

but im sure people that will steal photos in the future will thank you for the advice  Smile
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RE: New Visible Watermark Feature

Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:02 am

Ok, here's an even better idea.

Those who want the watermark and are driving this initiative are those photographers who don't want their work used elsewhere (stolen) without payment. They run a BUSINESS out of their posted photos. They make MONEY out of A.net display.

So keep the watermark feature... but make it a PAY-to-USE feature. Say $25.00 charged to each photographer to watermark his photo. And the charge if for EACH PHOTO watermarked!

I can hear the howls of outrage now. But wait a minute. You're running a BUSINESS on A.net. You pay the watermark fee as a COST of doing business, and if you are a true business person, you write your expences off against your profits at tax time. After all, every good business has to pay something to have their product marketed.

So keep the feature, but make it USER PAY!!!

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