LHRSIMON
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Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:29 pm

Well seeing as my Cannon 400 L F5.6 never arrived thanks to 7dayshop i have decided on a change of direction.

Im now looking at the following 2 lenses. The reason for the f2.8 is due to the fact it will also be used for indoor ice hockey photography. I wish i could go for the Cannon 300 f2.8 but thats well out my range  Sad

So any comments on the following 2 would be very welcome. I looked on Fred Miranda but also would like your guys comments if possible. My main two questions are... Whats the advantage of Sigma "DG". On their site it just states for Digital camera ???? But it add almost £300.00 to the price. Would the 300 prime be sharper than the top end of the 120-300. Speed and sharpness are my main issues. But i like the idea of the 200-300 covereage the zoom offers.

Sigma 300 f2.8
Sigme 120-300 f2.8

Thanks all
Simon C
Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
 
Dehowie
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:12 pm

G'day Simon
Everything i have heard about the 120-300 is positive.
Like all stuff i'd want a good look at the one i was buying in a shop prior to parting with the hard earned.
Best of luck.
Darren
2EOS1DX,EF14.2.8LII,17TS,85/1.2,16-35L,24-70LII,24L,70-200F2.8LII,100-400,300/400/500/800L
 
flyingzacko
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:42 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Thread starter):
Would the 300 prime be sharper than the top end of the 120-300.

I really don't know anything about these particular lenses, but I bet that the 300 prime is sharper than the top end of the other one, since the prime lenses usually are way more money too, and just made for the purpose of sharpness.

Cheers,
Sebastian
Canon 40D + 24-70 f/2.8 L + 70-200 f/4 L + Speedlite 430EX
 
IngemarE
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:55 pm

I've got a 120-300 f2,8 and I'm really happy with it!  bigthumbsup 
My latest pic on A-net (RYR 738 @ ESGP) was shot with my D1X and the 120-300. (No plugfest here!!  Wink)
I've only had mine for a few weeks, but I decided pretty quickly to part with the 70-200VR and haven't regretted that.

A guy I know, who's a really serious photographer has a Nikkor AF-S 300 f2,8 + a Sigma 120-300 f2,8, and he says that there's little to no difference between them when it comes to sharpness. As a matter of fact, since he got the Sigma, the Nikkor stays at home most of the time! Mainly due to the fact that the Sigma has the zoom capability, while giving superb image quality.

Sebastian,
There are photo-prints coming your way, as of today! Long time coming, I know, but I've had my behind full lately!! Not litteraly though!! Big grin
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Tin67
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:05 pm

Hi Simon,

I think you probably know my experience with the Sigma 300mm EX HSM f/2.8, but I'll say it again.

I bought mine from LCE Southampton during an event that they hold every year in the Spring at a local hotel. I was in the dilema stage of Sigma f2.8 or Canon f4.

Both Canon and Sigma were attending the event, but only the Sigma was available to see and try. In the end I took the plunge and opted for the Sigma. It looked great and I loved the feel.

My first outing was to a rallying event and then on to airliners. The optics were excellent. The results were superb, exceptionally clear and crisp so on this basis I couldn't fault it. Now for the cons.

The focussing was very poor, slow with a tendancy to hunt which was really annoying and a very common occurance.

Mine then started to fall apart. The mount close to the drop in filter become lose and them elements inside the lens started to drop down on to the optics. LCE assured me with was unusual and gave me a new one. Once again great results, but I'd lost confidence. I took it back to LCE, compared it to the Canon f4 L and decided to switch to Canon.

As a summary, I would say the Sigma had edge on the optics as comparing my results the Sigma's look slightly sharper. There's also the benefits of the 2.8 which you could use at Ice Hockey too. Having said this the autofocus was a constant pain, and the build on mine made me lose confidence in the lens. I'm happy with the Canon but not estatic, the autofocus is superior, it's much lighter and more portable, but the results are not quite as good in my eye.

My version of the Sigma has now been replaced by a newer version which Sigma advise is better. I may take a look, but definitely would check out the AF before doing anything.

Regards
Martin
 
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:45 pm

Quoting IngemarE (Reply 3):
Sebastian,
There are photo-prints coming your way, as of today! Long time coming, I know, but I've had my behind full lately!! Not litteraly though!! Big grin

I sure hope not literally Ingemar. Thanks very much though, I really can't wait to see how it came out.  Smile

Cheers,
Sebastian
Canon 40D + 24-70 f/2.8 L + 70-200 f/4 L + Speedlite 430EX
 
IngemarE
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:23 pm

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 5):
I really can't wait to see how it came out.

Well, buster....you're just gonna have to!! Big grin

Regarding the Sigma....
I've had no focusproblems what-so-ever. At least not on the D1X. On the contrary, I find it very very quick! No hunting around either, which I experienced sometimes with the 70-200VR. Only thing is, that there's no focusdistance limit-switch like on Nikon or Canon high-end glas. That's about the only "un-positive" thing I can think of really!
Haven't tried it on the D70 yet though.

...and no, I'm not a Sigma sales-man!  Wink
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LHRSIMON
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:55 pm

Thanks guys...

I forgot you also owned the Sigma 300 f2.8 martin otherwise i would have email you direct.....

I hope your right with regards ths new model.... As i said in my first post it reads on the Sigma site it has "DG" , which when you read it states "for digital camera's , and thats about it..... Maybe it means it's set up for things like faster auto focus etc etc. One additional question. Do the sigma lenses work with a 1.4 x ii Canon extender with AF on a 20D ????

I am going to go for the Sigma as the f2.8 is now the priority. But just not sure is the 120-300 or the 300 prime ???

Cheers
Simon C

[Edited 2005-09-10 13:56:38]
Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
 
Tin67
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:16 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 7):
Do the sigma lenses work with a 1.4 x ii Canon extender with AF on a 20D ????

Yes, mine worked well with the 1.4 extender on the 10D so I guess it will be okay on later models.

If you do go for this model I'd be keen to see how you get on. I do miss the 2.8 version and was considering this later version. Either that or wait until I have the funds to get the Canon 300 f2.8.

Regards
Martin
 
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RE: Sigma 300 F2.8 V Sigma 120-200 F2.8

Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:00 pm

Simon,

As you know i have the 120-300F2.8 in canon fit. Im currently travelling right now and dont really have that much time to write about it, i get home tommorrow morning though so either drop me an email or ill send you one with what i think about it.

Take a look at my recent images from FRA, they were all taken with that lens.

Cheers, Chris
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