tappan
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Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:08 pm

Canon 500 F4.5 with a 1.4 teleconverter...Backlit and very far away.
Do you....
A) Not even shoot it and wait for better light.....
B) Jack up the contrast....
or
C) Unsharp mask it......

http://photobucket.com/albums/y255/T...g/?action=view¤t=newLuft.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y255/T...g/?action=view¤t=BritBos.jpg

Sincerely,
"Frustrated in Boston".......
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:15 pm

I'd say: Bin them...
The heathaze prevents you from taking any long-range shots. It's a pain, but nothing you can do about it. When the light is like this (very high mid day sun) I normally go home.
Is there any other time of the day that you can shoot at this spot with nicer light (pref morning or evening)?

Eduard

[Edited 2005-09-13 16:17:51]
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:18 pm

Eduard,
Thanks....Never heard of Bin....but I tend to agree with you. The only problem is that this runway in Boston is not used too much and when it is used it is almost always a hazy or foggy day (SE wind)...
Mark
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:19 pm

Mr. Long lens is back in the game.....

1.) forget about it....you will never save this one. Way too much heat haze and the sun coming from the southwest does not really help it.

2.) Different story. I'd be interested to see the original file (RAW or jpg)
There might be a chance to save it.

But since when are you shooting with a Canon 500 f4.5????????????????????????

Vasco

p.s. I am glad that you went out shooting again!!!!!!!!! (even w/o me dragging you out there)
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:23 pm

Move on, You can't fight pics that are backlit. I took some good ones at JFK early yesterday when they were arriving 22L from a favorite spot and the sun was horrible. Looked at them over and over and just trashed them. You are going to get them rejected so why bother. Best piece of advice I got when I started was shoot with the sun behind you. Anything else is a waste of time unfortunately. Nice shots though.
Hey that guy with the private jet can bail us out! Why? HE CAN AFFORD IT!
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:31 pm

Mark, I'm actually suprised that you are asking this! You have proven yourself to be a well-respected photographer who goes after the IMAGE and not the registration. Please don't try to change your photographic eye/style just for this site. I will be honest and say that the above images are not a.net material, but (as always), you get "mad props" for persuing the unique angles.

A.net is all about technically perfect shots (nothing wrong with that at all), and you have a different style which goes against the grain, so to speak (again, nothing wrong with that either). I'd forget about trying to get those images uploaded here.

Anyway, FWIW, I think if you tried the same thing in the first or last hour of light in the day, you might get a stunning result.





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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:36 pm

Thanks. Very nice of you all.
I don't blame the screeners for the rejects...
I was truly wondering if anybody out there had any magic formula regarding contrast and unsharp mask or both of them together to try and save these knowing full well that this shot will almost never be front lit or on a crystal clear day.
Yes, all of us need help one time or another...
Mark Garfinkel
p.s Vasco, are you kidding? Me going out with you to photograph jets, at Logan?
Didn't we almost get arrested last time??
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting Tappan (Reply 6):
p.s Vasco, are you kidding? Me going out with you to photograph jets, at Logan?
Didn't we almost get arrested last time??

Who was the guy again who was middle eastern looking?????? me or you. Oh yes, the cops said 2 guys.......

The second shot (BA)....was that RAW or jpg?????
I had a similar shot accepted shot under difficult light, I might be able to help you.

Vasco
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:41 am

Vasco's photos seem to mix both......
fresh angles with technical excellence...
Way to go Vasco.....
Mark G
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
Looked at them over and over and just trashed them. You are going to get them rejected so why bother

IMHO this is defintely the wrong approach, why????
Do you guys just shoot for a.net? A.net is certainly not the center of the world when it comes to aviation images. What is an acceptable shot for an editor, art director etc. may not be suitable for this site, so be it.

Scooter summed it up pretty nicely. Read what he had to say.

Vasco
 
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RE: Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:08 am

Hi Mark

Sorry, I would choose option A.

Image might be good for b/w press article but not really for Airliners.net. That's just the way it is. We follow Johan's guidelines.

Regards

Gary

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