pitchul
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In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:19 am

Hello all,

I have upload this pic, taken while my flight LUX-ACE, what do you think about ?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/LX-LGO-050702-030.JPG

Regards

Emmanuel
 
draigonair
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:28 am

Hey,

looks good to me!...Maybe there's alittle too much pilot in the photo but should be okay i hope!

cheers

Nick
cheers
 
eadster
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:01 am

Fantasic shot - I really like it. I'm with draigonair that I think there may be a bit too much pilot but leave it in the Q. It should do ok.

Well done, great shot!
 
andrewuber
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:00 am

Emmanuel -

Shot looks good, but outside the windows is a bit too bright, hopefully it won't get bad dark or bad contrast. I've found that when in flight, if you ask the crew for permission to use flash, they usually don't mind. I use flash during the day so I can get a quick exposure of the outside, and a flashed bright exposure of the panel. It's worked out pretty well - just be sure to ask the crew first!!!

One example:

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That was with flash, and an exposure of 1/200 to catch the clouds and sky. Turned out OK, and the crew didn't mind at all.

Good luck!  bigthumbsup 

Drew
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eadster
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:32 am

Thats a good point and I forgot about that. Asking for permission next time will help a bit. I'd be careful using it when they have the aircraft on Final approach though!
 
waketurbulence
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:23 pm

I love the shot! Nice to see the crew hard at work. The only problem I see is the outside exposure. Anet seems to be very picky about this regarding cockpit shots. Nice shot and good luck.
-Matt
 
pitchul
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:30 pm

Hello all,

Thx for the replies. I have use a flash for this pic  Smile

Manu
 
pitchul
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:29 pm

And what do you think about this one ?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/LX-LGO-050702-097.JPG

Manu
 
javibi
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:01 am

I am sorry to say that I think you are gonna get NOA_motiv in both due to the laptop and the photopilot...  Sad

My 2 cents

j
 
SA006
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:19 am

Quoting Pitchul (Reply 7):
And what do you think about this one ?

Funny photo.

Looks a tad unlevel to me and there is quite some glare on the cockpit windows. Pilots are also very distracting.

-SA006
Proudly South African
 
pitchul
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:33 pm

Last news  Smile

THe second have been rejected (NOA_Motiv)

And the first, with the computer : left for Johan  Smile

Wait and see  Smile

Manu  Smile
 
andrewuber
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:08 pm

Manu -

Good luck with the headscreeners. As for the badmotive call - perhaps it would have been a good thing to have the laptop displaying the airliners.net homepage!  bigthumbsup 

Drew  wave 
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Philthy
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:09 am

Sorry to relate, I've been through a struggle to get some cockpit shots accepted too - I keep getting 'motive' rejections. As far as anyone can make out it's because of showing too much crew, although that 'rule' seems to be applied somewhat selectively.

So - my advice is crop to show minimal or no crew for cockpit shots. Too bad, because the in-flight use of the computer is something interesting.

Philthy
 
Dehowie
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:35 am

Many airlines now use laptops as there new "flightbags" for crew information sothey canbe an integral part of the flight deck in 2005.
Jetblue for instance have there's mounted as an option on the Airbus tray table for stowage.
I'd be saying a photo should not be being rejected for the laptop as it "may" be part of the aircrafts equipment.
At least this is the case for Airbus as we we at Jetstar are heading down the same road.
As for the crew unless i am wrong the last time i checked in flight they are just as important as the engines hanging off the wings so why wouldnt they be an essential part of the shot.
Sorry but they are not a "distraction" they are THE single most important component in the operation.
It staggers me that the single most important part of the operation are considered as bad motive.
Guess what guys if there where no pilots there would be no aeroplanes and no airliners.net period.
Darren
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Philthy
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:17 pm

Further to the above, I've just had this shot rejected on appeal for 'people':


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Phil Vabre



This is despite the fact that I have an email from the Captain giving me permission to post this photo, as required by the a.net rules.

An earlier version was previously rejected for 'motive' and the consensus of opinion on this forum was that it was due to the original crop showing too much of the crew. So I re-cropped it, but still no good apparently.

Having said that, here are a few photos that are in the db:


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Don't get me wrong: fine photos all, but members of the crew are arguably at least as or more identifiable. It does seem to me that there's a bit of inconsistency in the screening here.

Any screeners care to comment?

Philthy
 
pepef
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:08 pm

Whether you took 1 photo of an empty Airbus cockpit (for instance) or a thousand, they all look basically the same. Regardless of airline or airport.

If you include working pilots and scenery in the photo, it becomes unique. A hundred years from now, those could even have some historical value.

Photos with pilots in them get more views than the empty cockpit ones do. So it's got to be down to permission and legal issues. To avoid those, you have to have permission from both the airline AND the pilots. Which I do.

So does everyone else who uploads a lot of cockpit photos. If you only upload 1 or 2, the screeners may be worried about legal repercussions. So get a permission from the airline as well, and state it clearly in the "comments to screeners" box.

BTW, nice sharp, well exposed photo you got there.

-pepef-
 
Philthy
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:56 am

Thanks Pepef,

The a.net rules only require permission from the individual, but I'll give your point some thought.

Anyone else care to comment, especially screeners?

Philthy
 
mygind66
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:05 pm

Quoting Pepef (Reply 15):
If you include working pilots and scenery in the photo, it becomes unique. A hundred years from now, those could even have some historical value

Hi..
I agree 100% but this is Johan's site and stands by his rules..

Enrique
 
pitchul
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:20 am

Hello,

Thx to all for all the replies.

The pic is still waiting for Johan´s decision. How long does it take in average when a pic is "Left for Johan" ?

Thx

Manu
 
GRZ-AIR
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:55 am

Quoting Pitchul (Reply 10):
Pilots are also very distracting.

.........yes, especially when there in the cockpit hehe  Wink  Wink  Wink
When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
 
chksix
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:31 am

I'm unhappy that flightdeck photos get rejected. I'm trying to collect as much info on the 737 NG's as possible so I'm extremely grateful for any shots taken during different configurations, Taxi, TakeOff, Climb, Cruise etc.

The Center display is the most interesting part to me as it shows N1, EGT, FF etc...
A parked 737 is similar to all of the same type but one in flight is different as it depends on the situation.

Mods, please don't reject flightdeck images!
The conveyor belt plane will fly
 
dcrusafon
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:19 am

Chksix,

If you are interested in 737NG I have tons of pics from Air Europa!


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Photo © Javier F. Bobadilla - Iberian Spotters
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Photo © Javier F. Bobadilla - Iberian Spotters



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Photo © Dario Crusafon - Iberian Spotters
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Photo © Dario Crusafon - Iberian Spotters



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Photo © Javier F. Bobadilla - Iberian Spotters



Quoting Pepef (Reply 15):
To avoid those, you have to have permission from both the airline AND the pilots. Which I do.

I do agree on your comments Pepef. I work for Air Europa and I have the permission from the captain and also from the Operation director of Air Europa...And they really like that we put picture from the company on the site  Smile Normally, the picture is screened before by the captain  Wink

DARIO
 
chksix
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:28 pm

Thanks Dario! Next time you fly, can you take photos while on the takeoff roll and climb out? And if possible add a comment on the aircraft gross weight when the pic was taken.


The reason for this is that I'm tweaking a simulated 737-700 and -800 for Xplane. I want it to show the same values as the real aircraft at all times.

More info about the plane here: http://www.stratmann-web.net/xplane/aircraft.html
The author Benedict Stratmann knows about my "help"  Wink and said he appreciates it as he didn't have time to fiddle with fuelflow etc. when programming the plugin for it.

It's extremely hard to find tables and charts for the jets on the net. It's almost as if they are classified. Embarrassment
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pitchul
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RE: In Flight Cockpit Pictures

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:17 am

Finally : Rejected

NOA_Motiv

Manu

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