LGW
Topic Author
Posts: 4281
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2000 6:07 pm

My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:59 pm

Hi all,

Since going from D30 to 20D dust has become an issue as discussed in a topic I created a week or two ago.

Well, since then I had a go with Intemos DSLR clean swabs which I didn't get on with, I found them difficult to move around the sensor and I ended up with a similar looking sensor to before hand.

I had been pointed in the direction of the Copper Hill DSLR clean tutorial and kit (Thanks Fergul et al). It looked good so I ordered a kit and it came very quickly with a nice set of instructions too.

I had a go on a mirror to make sure I got the technique right and then had a go on my sensor. It took a good few attempts to get used to making up a swab and cleaning but after 5 sweeps over my sensor (it does say new users can take 3-10 swabs to get a clean sensor so 5's not so bad for a first time ... ish Big grin)

Anyhow I now have a spotless sensor at f20 and I am pretty pleased with that.

The main purpose of this post is partly because of the number of posts about how to clean sensors/deal with dust spots and also to say that cleaning the sensor really isn't some big deal, yes DSLR's are very delicate and expensive, and they are to be treated carefully. Most manufacturers say not to go anywhere near the sensor but the facts are that dust happens, it is no fun cloning tons of dust off every photo and people can't afford the time and money to keep sending the body away to get it cleaned by their manufacturer.

The Copper Hill method seems a little daunting and difficult but give it a go, be patient and follow the instructions and your sensor will be nice and clean.

Hope this helps someone and remember you are not cleaning the sensor, although that it the terminology used, you are cleaning glass over the sensor!

Cheers

Ben Pritchard

Copper Hill ---> http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning
 
mrk25
Posts: 223
Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 3:31 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:16 pm

Hi All,

One thing I found when practicing before the sensor clean. I was using a spare UV filter, Every pass of the swab left smears/streaks. I was a little unsure of what would happen on the sensor and certainly didn't want to replicate this effect. I did find that the Eclipse fluid does not streak on the sensor at all.
So for anyone practicing first, don't worry if you get smeary streaks it will be fine on the sensor.

Regards

Mark
 
fergulmcc
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:36 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:48 pm

Quoting LGW (Thread starter):
Thanks Fergul et al

You're welcome Ben, glad it worked out for you. I feel that the stuff you get from copper hill is the best for cleaning your sensor. I do a sensor check each time, before I go out and I take them with me when I go on holiday as well. Did I mention that I was off to Cape Town for the Christmas holidays?? Big grin Big grin

Take care

Fergul  sun 
Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
 
TZ
Posts: 908
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:21 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:07 pm

Does this system really involve you having to manufacture your own sensor swabs? I have always found that the Sensor Swab product (from the same manufacturer as the Pec-Pad) works like a charm.

I have been cleaning my sensor with Eclipse fluid and Sensor Swabs for years and very happy and never had a problem. It's no big deal for me, although it'd be nice if I never had to do it at all!

TZ
TZ Aviation - Aeropuerto de los Banditos Team Images
 
mrk25
Posts: 223
Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 3:31 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:21 pm

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
It's no big deal for me, although it'd be nice if I never had to do it at all!

I'm sure the day will come when a company will produce a self cleaning sensor or perhaps a built in device that wipes the sensor when you select sensor cleaning in the cameras menu.

Mark
 
fergulmcc
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:36 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:04 pm

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
I have always found that the Sensor Swab product (from the same manufacturer as the Pec-Pad) works like a charm.

I have no expierence with them but the sensor swipe, which I'm sure is very similar is very good. All you do is cover/wrap the sensor swipe with a new pec pad each time, with a few drops of the fluid and swipe away, but always ensuring that you don't touch the area of the pad that is going to come into contact with the sensor. Big grin
Works every time for me,

take care

Fergul  sun 
Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
 
dendrobatid
Posts: 1645
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:40 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:22 pm

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
I have been cleaning my sensor with Eclipse fluid and Sensor Swabs for years and very happy and never had a problem.

I can't say I've been doing that for years, but I do the same. When Fergul visited me earlier in the year he did mine using a Pec pad and that was good. The big difference is the cost. Fergul left me some Pec pads and they will last for ages whilst the sensor swabs are not cheap.
Incidentally, Eclipse fluid is simply IPA, (not India Pale Ale), Iso Propyl Alcohol and so that is damned expensive for what it is too.
If you know a friendly chemist it should cost a few pennies.
Mick Bajcar
 
LGW
Topic Author
Posts: 4281
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2000 6:07 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:52 pm

Tamsin,

Yes with this method you make your own swab. As Fergul said its just a Pec-Pad wrapped around a Sensor Swipe spatular with a little tape, not to difficult but I do prefer the look of what you use Tamsin. Cost is also a factor, the ready made ones work out at about £3 a go? Its about £7 or so for 100 Pec Pads on Warehouse Express.

Mick,

When I read IPA I had visions of using a couple of drops of Greene King IPA on a Swab Big grin

Cheers

Ben Pritchard
 
dendrobatid
Posts: 1645
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:40 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:22 pm

Quoting LGW (Reply 7):
When I read IPA I had visions of using a couple of drops of Greene King IPA on a Swab

Ben

Ah Greene King....
Best taken to calm the nerves AFTER the cleaning, in much larger quantities than a few drop too.

Tamsin,
I have a very strong suspicion that the sensor wipes you use are simply Pecpads on a special spatula. I bought some of those wipes and, obviously, use them only once. They are however very easy to 'reload' with Pecpads for re-use. Don't throw them away!
Mick Bajcar
 
TZ
Posts: 908
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:21 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 8):
have a very strong suspicion that the sensor wipes you use are simply Pecpads on a special spatula.

Yes, I think the end result is just the same, especially given that the same manufacturer makes both. The only difference is really cost vs convenience.

TZ
TZ Aviation - Aeropuerto de los Banditos Team Images
 
ChrisM001
Posts: 65
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:47 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:19 am

As long as you are careful then cleaning your sensor should not be something to be scared about. Was at a Canon presentation recently and the sales rep was trying to persuade me that the only way to get the sensor cleaned properly was to send it back to Canon. When several of us pointed out how susceptible to dust the 20D seems to be, and if we followed his advice we would be without our cameras for significant periods of time he didn't really have an answer.

Some tips to try and reduce the dest getting on your sensor:

  • Only change lenses with the camera switched off.
  • Don't keep the body cap in your pocket etc when you are using the camera. When you come to put the cap back on the camera any dirt/lint etc in your pocket may end up inside the camera - next time you switch on, plenty of dust for the sensor to grab.
  • Try and store your body cap with the corresponding lens rear cap, cuts down chance of getting dust on the inside of the body cap. Ideally keep both in a clean environment.

Chris
 
vasanthd
Posts: 446
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 8:35 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting ChrisM001 (Reply 10):
Only change lenses with the camera switched off.

How can this avoid the dust from entering the sensor? Just curious...  Confused

--Vasanth
One Lucky shot deserves another!
 
mygind66
Posts: 1033
Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 7:13 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:47 am

Hi..

Well in my case I use Coper Hill method too and my 10D is not a 20D probably... I've just had to clean the sensor once since 01/2004 and I do change a lot lenses. The reason of having just 2 or 3 spots actually ( PS kills them ) I think is because I change lenses with the switch off and the body upside down in order to avoid dust to get in the sensor....

Cheers

Enrique
 
9VSPO
Posts: 4187
Joined: Sun May 18, 2008 9:03 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:47 am

When I asked my local Jessops for a puffer the guy there told me the 350D was self-cleaning! I wish!  Wow!
 
LGW
Topic Author
Posts: 4281
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2000 6:07 pm

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:04 am

9VSPO,

"When I asked my local Jessops for a puffer the guy there told me the 350D was self-cleaning!"

I love Jessops, bargain prices and expert, knowledgeable service  rotfl 

Cheers

Ben Pritchard
 
TZ
Posts: 908
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:21 am

RE: My Experiences Of Sensor Cleaning

Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting Vasanthd (Reply 11):
How can this avoid the dust from entering the sensor? Just curious...

The sensor (or rather protective plastic coating over the sensor) is statically charged, rather unfortunately this draws the dust onto it.

I assume the Canon chap was inferring that the static charge may be reduced by powering off. Just my supposition though.

TZ
TZ Aviation - Aeropuerto de los Banditos Team Images

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests