Karlok
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D70/D100 Curves

Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:15 pm

In the D70 and the D100 it is possible to load a custom curve.

I am trying to find a good curve for aviation. At the moment I use the curve at www.planetneil.com.

Any recommends I can try?

Kar-lok
 
jhribar
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:04 am

Is this some sort of camera on-board curve setting for your photos?
In case it is, I'd say don't do it. It might work for some light circumstances but it could also degrade the picture a lot in some other light conditions.

If I interpret your post correct you shoot JPG. In this case you have to set up the camera very well since all processing is done on-board. In other words: no oversharpening, not too much contrast etc...

I'd go for as little compromising as possible and do much of these corrections in PS. This way YOU have control about what processing happens, not the camera! Also the adjustment steps can be much finer.
But this is just my 2 cents.

Jeroen Hribar
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:30 am

Hi Kar-lok,

I have to agree with Jeroen here...

Quoting Karlok (Thread starter):
I am trying to find a good curve for aviation

How would you define a good curve for aviation? A curve which suits approach shots with lots of blue sky? Ramp shots? Night shots? Etc etc.

As Jeroen mentions, no one curve will suit all situations, just as no one exposure combination will suit all situations. If you are not shooting RAW already, I'd recommend giving it a go and then having a dab at editing your photos with a good imaging software package (e.g Adobe Photoshop, Coral Paint Shop Pro). This will give you much more control over all aspects of your photos, including tonality.

Regards,

Adam
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:24 am

Curves are an excellent way to get past some of the issues the d100 has. By far the easiest way to more consistent photos. I use a custom curve I got from a guy at NoBS, but cann't find it at the moment. It has made a huge difference in the d100. Don't have a d70, but it probably suffers similar issues.

When you find a good source, let us know.

Quoting Jhribar (Reply 1):
Also the adjustment steps can be much finer.

How can you get more adjustment then using a curve? I'd love to hear this.

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 2):
How would you define a good curve for aviation? A curve which suits approach shots with lots of blue sky? Ramp shots? Night shots? Etc etc.

Curves deal with tonality, which the d100 has issues with in certain ones. Why do you think Nikon enabled them to be adjusted with custom curves?
 
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:45 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 3):
Curves deal with tonality

I agree with you - but no one curve is ever going to be able to give the perfect photo regardless of the situation, subject, weather, lighting etc etc. Of course, I suppose it is possible to set up a range of different custom curves to choose from depending on you circumstances, but for me personally with a D70, I find it easier to shoot in RAW with Auto Tone comp. and then, if need be, adjust the finer aspects of the image using my imaging software.

I've not had any experience in using a D100, but with my D70 I haven't come across any issues in this depertment yet (although in other depts... yes!)

Cheers,

Adam
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Karlok
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:18 am

OK,

I shoot RAW, but like whitebalance etc.
I want to set it almost right when I take the shot, if possible. Thus same for the contrast file.

I found out that when you set a proper whitebalance, you get better contrast then when you do it afterwards at home with the RAW image.

The custom curve I use now, gives me much better exposured shots then at the other pre-settings.

So, I was curious if there are more users with a custom curve with their opinion on the use of it.

Kar-lok
 
jhribar
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RE: D70/D100 Curves

Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 3):
How can you get more adjustment then using a curve? I'd love to hear this.

You can NOT get more adjustment, but what you DO get is a lot more freedom by doing it in PS and having full control about what you are doing!

Since Kar-Lok is shooting RAW it doesn't make a real difference, since what the curve will correct will be just as easy to do in PS by yourself - and here it comes - in PS you have much better chance to do very fine adjustment of a curve than doing the same blind routine over and over again for each picture on-board.

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 2):
no one curve will suit all situations, just as no one exposure combination will suit all situations.

You're absolutely right about this Adam

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