unattendedbag
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Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:00 am

I had an idea after my last few rejections.

What if we were to pay (voluntarily) a little each month to receive a brief explanation as to why our photos were rejected. Instead of the usual NOA_Quality or NOA_Exposure, the screener would actually (briefly) describe why the photo was rejected, i.e. dust spot top right corner, shadow grain under the wing, photo needs a bit of CCW rotation...

I know this is what the NOA_Personal is used for, but I feel that it is grossly underused. It only leads us to posting our rejections in the forum, and most of the time I don't like having other people see my sometimes simple mistakes.

This idea of mine has not included how much an uploader would need to pay, that should be left up to Admin obviously.

your thoughts?
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:14 am

Please make your cheques payable to C.A.S.H. and arrange postage through my e-mail address.  Big grin
 
OD720
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:17 am

Bad idea. A general idea is already given and more specifics are being discussed here in this forum.

Now people who don't pay, will start complaining here that they are not getting fair treatment.

On a technical side, who will get the royalties out of the payments? Johan or the screener who is investing the time in typing the reason?
 
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:46 am

Quoting OD720 (Reply 2):
Bad idea.

Thank you!

Quoting OD720 (Reply 2):
A general idea is already given and more specifics are being discussed here in this forum.

Sometimes I think a "general idea" is too vague. I would like it if the screener was a bit more helpful than saying "This photo is not up to A.Net standards, have a nice day".

Quoting OD720 (Reply 2):
Now people who don't pay, will start complaining here that they are not getting fair treatment.

Why would they expect fair treatment? It won't be fair at all.

Quoting OD720 (Reply 2):
On a technical side, who will get the royalties out of the payments? Johan or the screener who is investing the time in typing the reason?

That is not for me to decide. Maybe better Christmas gifts for the screeners... feed an orphan program... that's up to Johan.
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:07 am

I'm afraid I don't have enough money to pay for the info on all my rejections. Wouldn't it be better to bribe them into accepting our photos?  spin 

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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:22 am

Erm, how should I put this? 'No' just doesn't quite say it
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:32 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Thread starter):
your thoughts?

Yes, I think YOU should pay extra for that info, i'm not going to.  Wink
 
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:38 am

Quoting Pepef (Reply 4):
I'm afraid I don't have enough money to pay for the info on all my rejections. Wouldn't it be better to bribe them into accepting our photos?

regardless if it costs or not i feel that we should be given atleast a bit of info as to why it was rejected so to know what to edit in PS or w/e also would save time as opposed to posting a photo on the boards and waiting for a responce.
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Gary2880
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:20 am

so. Basically. You want to pay to get photos rejected on a website, DSLR ownership not take a big enough chunk out of your bank balance? You want to pay someone to tell you why your photograph is crap (according to a.net standards)

are you feeling ok?

Besides, what's this forum for? come here and you can pay me ill tell you what's wrong with it just pop the amount into my paypal. If I cant I'm sure others will
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aviopic
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:22 am

Although I am in favor of more info paying for it would require an extra mortgage. Big grin
With the number of uploads against the number of screeners it's obvious that there is simply no time to do this whether we start paying or not doesn't change that.

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Gary2880
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:26 am

Opens up a whole new range of possibilities,

'right we rejected your photo you wasted our time and photographers time by putting it in the que you now owe us £10!'

I would be bankrupt if I had to pay for each rejection...
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:27 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Thread starter):
What if we were to pay (voluntarily) a little each month to receive a brief explanation as to why our photos were rejected.



 confused 

Then what, pay more for the tips on how to improve?
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:27 am

Well, Im sorry for wasting everyone's time with such a ridiculous idea. My apologies.

Please continue with the ambiguious rejection reasons.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:30 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 12):
Well, Im sorry for wasting everyone's time with such a ridiculous idea. My apologies.

don't worry, I got to see a bunny with a pancake on its head. I can go to sleep happy now
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:53 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 12):
Well, Im sorry for wasting everyone's time with such a ridiculous idea. My apologies.

Hehe... don't worry about it just don't post these things on Friday night Big grin
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:10 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Thread starter):
...and most of the time I don't like having other people see my sometimes simple mistakes...

Did you guys all miss that quote?

That's sad, but true.

It's all very well being taunted to show your rejected photograph in here, but it doesn't suit everyone.

It probably explains why a lot of people don't, or can't, ask for help.

[Edited 2005-11-12 01:12:27]
 
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:22 am

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 10):
I would be bankrupt if I had to pay for each rejection...

I don't recall stating that we should pay for "each" rejection. That would drive everyone broke! A simple fee of a few quid/bucks/wan per month for a little added info. Some users think paying $5 for 'first class' membership is a worthwhile cause. I think a little added rejection info might be a worthwhile cause.

Quoting Lennymuir (Reply 15):
It probably explains why a lot of people don't, or can't, ask for help.

I have posted rejections in the past. The thing is, when I upload a photo, I believe I have corrected every known deficiency from being too dark, removing dust spots and making the photo level. It is in my eyes, acceptable and meets The Standards.
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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:35 am

I think the problem here is not money, it's more about the time screeners can spend on each photo, so giving money would not solve the problem at all.

On the other hand, I don't have any problem with people seeing my rejected photos. It is very instructive to see all kinds of rejections. Besides, there is a lot of expert photogs in the forum who somehow do the job that screeners simply can't afford to do.

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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:36 am

I think the problem here is not money, it's more about the time screeners can spend on each photo, so giving money would not solve the problem at all.

On the other hand, I don't have any problem with people seeing my rejected photos. It is very instructive to see all kinds of rejections. Besides, there is a lot of expert photogs in the forum who somehow do the job that screeners simply can't afford to do.

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RE: Would You Pay For Extra Rejection Info?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:40 am

Well i think if we had less rejections then we could put a special note in every rejection... but if you look at the number of photo's that we get, its simply impossible to inform... i think this is why the forum was intorduced... you can ask questions for FREE... or wait guys, someone wants to pay for your advice!

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