AIHTOURS
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50 Aviation Photography Tips

Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:29 pm

I've been thinking about doing this for a while, all it involves is each person submitting one Aviation Photography 'tip'. It will be useful for new starters and established Photographers alike. They can be to do with any part of Aviation Photography, from actually taking the Photo to Editing, even tips on A.net.

I'll start:

1. Always try and take Photos with the sun behind you.

Let's try and get 50, I'm sure everyone has one tip to share. When we get 50 I'll compile the 'tip list'.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:05 pm

Here is mine, Big grin
Your Best Editing Tip.... (by Glennstewart Jan 4 2005 in Aviation Photography)

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:22 pm

My best advice, not that it counts for much, is to make sure you do some research on where you're going first .... best places to stand for the best shots and lighting, best times to go (i.e. so you're not standing around for hours with nothing to shoot) and also, get a reliable weather check the night before!!

There's nothing worse than having to battle between your camera and a brolly .... I'm sure Fergul will back me up on that one!  wink 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:42 pm

Quoting AIHTOURS (Thread starter):
1. Always try and take Photos with the sun behind you.

Nah?!

As Fergul linked, there's a thread already with tons of helpful information.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:53 am

Learn photography first, not how to push the button.

Disregard tip one.


Oops. that was two. Well, take your pick.
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:53 am

take a side shot of the A380. seemed to work the other day, did you guys see how many were in the top 15? I think at one point about 12 of the top 15 were of the 380 and most of those were the same shot of it.
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:20 am

Do a preflight on your camera. Check settings, like RAW, WB, ISO, card downloaded and empty (BURNED BY THIS TOO) etc.. Like me I had set my camera to 1600 while taking some indoor hockey shots, two hours later I am taking pictures of jets at KLZU in full shiny sun and when I get home to check the pics they are grain monsters. I was freaking steamed to say the least. Now, I always check to make sure the camera is ready to take pictures. Do your preflights!!! Thats my tip.
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:33 am

Do not use photoshop.
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AIHTOURS
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:40 am

Sorry about that. Didn't know there had already been something like this.

I wasn't after information for myself, I just thought it would be nice to have 50 solid tips that people can benefit from.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
Nah?!

What do you mean Nah?!. Trying to be sarcastic?

Thanks to those who have told us some tips all the same   

[Edited 2005-11-13 17:42:45]
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:41 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 7):
Do not use photoshop.
....................................

if you don´t know how to use it, that is.

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:25 am

1. for your first shots: don't shoot in the rain, fog, dull sky conditions
2. shoot a lot of other subjects beside airplanes
3. don't blame your equipment, the lens, the camera etcetera because most of the time it is you who screwed up a shot
4. have patience, chances are your first dozen of pictures will be rejected: it takes some time to learn this thing
5. remember you can make a great shot with a mobile phone camera, and you can make an ugly and grainy monster with your top-of-the-notch DSLR -
6. use the beginning and end of the day for shooting
7. don't go out shooting on warm days: heat haze will kill your shots
8. hire an airplane for some air-to-ground work
9. go to an airliners.net meeting
10. never bash screeners for rejects: there are just some simple rules for pictures on this website, these rules are applied strictly - even when your is awesome
11. remember nobody can see or is interested in how much effort you it took to get that killer shot
12. find another a.net photographer who can help you and give you personal feedback

Kind regards,
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:55 am

34. Decide whether or not you're doing it for your personal pleasure, or the pleasure of Airliners.net
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:03 am

Tip 73: Do not trust your camera's metering...

Quoting AIHTOURS (Reply 8):
Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
Nah?!

What do you mean Nah?!. Trying to be sarcastic?

Nope... He means: You don't need the sun behind you to take a cool shot...

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:11 am

Quoting IL76 (Reply 12):
Nope... He means: You don't need the sun behind you to take a cool shot...

And that Air Bridge Cargo shot is AWESOME!!
 Big grin
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:21 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 13):
And that Air Bridge Cargo shot is AWESOME!!

yep totally awesome. I love to see the pics that don't "conform " the normal. Keep up the good work Eduard  bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:25 am

0: Shoot for YOUR enjoyment not for meeting the a.net criteria. If you have some output meeting the criteria then its fine, if not its also fine.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:39 am

Quoting IL76 (Reply 12):
Do not trust your camera's metering...

Exactly, get yourself a Grey card and meter off that, tried it for the first time over the weekend and it works brilliant.
Read here . . . . What Metering Mode Do You Use? (by Flyfisher1976 Sep 4 2005 in Aviation Photography)

Take care

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:41 am

Quoting IL76 (Reply 12):
Quoting AIHTOURS (Reply 8):
Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
Nah?!

What do you mean Nah?!. Trying to be sarcastic?

Nope... He means: You don't need the sun behind you to take a cool shot...

Perfectly nailed, thanks Eduard!  Smile


* Be selective. Snapping 10 well-thought and composed shots can be worth a lot more than taking 100 with no greater preperation.

* Even though you said aviation photography tips, I'd like to add: Basics. If you have no idea what connects aperature and shutter speed, what ISO does or what DOF is, start at the beginning.
You won't learn driving in a F1 car either. ( ideally  Wink )

cheers,
Florian
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 16):
get yourself a Grey card and meter off that, tried it for the first time over the weekend and it works brilliant.

Pretty neat stuff the gray card huh? Glad to hear it worked out for you.
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:24 am

Make sure your memory card is empty before you start shooting...I had a bad time once..when i shot nearly 30 great snaps..only to find i didnt erase my previous spotting pics. Then I had to manually erase about 200+ pictures one by one..
One Lucky shot deserves another!
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:21 pm

Quoting Vasanthd (Reply 19):
Then I had to manually erase about 200+ pictures one by one..

You could have locked your 30 new ones and delete all others at once.  Wink
Check you cam manual.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:38 pm

Quoting INNflight (Reply 20):
Check you cam manual.

I have never read or carried my Cam (20D) manual  Sad. I gota read now...though...
One Lucky shot deserves another!
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:24 am

Quoting Vasanthd (Reply 21):
I have never read or carried my Cam (20D) manual

I don't understand this at all! I consult my camera manual all the time!
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:53 am

Take pictures for yourself first and A.net etc second. This way you enjoy the hobby more than just striving to get every picture accepted and avoid disappointment when you don't.

Have fun

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:57 am

Tip 22: Read the manual   

Looks like the threads doing well after all.

Sorry Florian, I took you the wrong way, that is a problem with the fourms, you can't see peoples emotions. Can I just point out that I prefer taking Photos with the sun behind me, and people told me when I started to try and take pics with the sun behind me when taking photos of Planes, that is probably why I said that.

Anyway, keep it going everyone, nice to see some tip-sharing going on!

Another very, very, basic one, make sure your batterys are charged! It's caught me out before   Wink

Also, I think printing a few out is a good one, as it is great to see your work on print!

[Edited 2005-11-14 16:59:11]
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 22):
I don't understand this at all!

Young guys like me may sometimes try to learn from the device first...rather than read the manual fully...its just sheer excitement..

Quoting Yanqui67 (Reply 6):
Like me I had set my camera to 1600

I have experienced that too...  Sad but lucky enough my first photo ever accepted in A.net was a 1600ISO on a bright sunny day  Smile

Anyways Tip #23,
Instead of using the Auto brightness/contrast function, try using the curves in Photoshop...The results are just too good...

Tip #24
Dont attract attention in those **Unauthorized Spots**...Take a pic, get inside the car...Take a pic ...get inside the car...

--Vas
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:18 am

The best tip is to photograph the mundane. One day you will regret not having done so. I have too few BOAC Boeing 707s, BEA Tridents, Vanguards, Viscounts etc etc.
Todays mundane will be history one day. Capture it now !

Mick Bajcar
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:41 am

Yeeh... my best tip ?
Keep an open mind and don't restrict yourself by so called "rules".
In other words try shooting straight into the sun, in bad weather, storm, fog and every condition other then easy.
Do it over and over again, it will help you to find where your own and equipment limits are.
If you wanna upload here spend a minimum of 2 hours on PS.....every day for the next 2 years or so.

You will get there in the end,
Willem
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:49 am

1) Learn to talk to the cops.  Wink

2) Appreciate clear winter air.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
As Fergul linked, there's a thread already with tons of helpful information.

Editing and photography are a bit different.  Wink

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:15 am

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 26):
The best tip is to photograph the mundane. One day you will regret not having done so. I have too few BOAC Boeing 707s, BEA Tridents, Vanguards, Viscounts etc etc.
Todays mundane will be history one day. Capture it now !

Mick, that is sooooo true  Sad

But, I think you lie! I have seen some of your pics and you didn't miss much - unlike me  Sad

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:24 pm

Best tip of all: shoot for yourself, not for some website screener.
All that counts is that YOU like your work, if others like it that nice for them...
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:41 pm

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 29):
But, I think you lie! I have seen some of your pics and you didn't miss much

You got that right Andy!!

Did you get my mail Andy?

Take care

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:12 pm

Quoting Vasanthd (Reply 19):
Then I had to manually erase about 200+ pictures one by one..

You could have protected the 30 shots you took then formatted the card it would have been quicker.
Great tips .hmm enjoy the day out then the next day will be even better.
Cheers
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:45 am

If you format the card, everything goes, even the protected ones.

/JM
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:05 am

Fergul, yes thanks mate. You should have my reply by now.

OK, carry on as if you were normal chaps Big grin

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:31 am

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 33):
If you format the card, everything goes, even the protected ones.

Jan thx for correction but i was under the impression that once they are protected they cant be erased.
Cheers
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:01 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 32):
If you format the card, everything goes, even the protected ones

That's correct! So in this case, make sure you use the "erase all" method, then locked photos will stay!

cheers,
Florian
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:13 am

I have 3 tips:
1. Go for Canon.
2. Don't give a sh*t about a.net upload rules ... sorry, couldn't resist 
3. Wear a sun hat.

Thomas

[Edited 2005-11-15 22:14:09]
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:19 am

48. In winter, wear more clothing than you think you'll need...airports are usually very windy and before long, you're too miserable to shoot...
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:13 am

Did I miss it or did we all forget to note here the basic principle of photography?

Get close!

That should be tip number one. And, just to be provocative... tip number two: Learn photography without a zoom lens. Start thinking in terms of "where do i have to get myself to take a good picture", not in terms of "I'll just stand comfortably here and zoom in". It's hard work. At least, hard legwork.

And more specific to aviation photography: Go where the others don't, when they are not around, and take the shots they won't take. Get your shoes muddy, your neck sunburnt, your arms scraped by thorns... bore yourself waiting for hours... go out at dusk and dawn... and be passionate about airplanes. With any sort of photography, if you love and know your subject it will show in your work.
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:47 am

Learn about composition. As has been said already, rules of composition for certain kinds of photography (such as the 'rule of thirds') may not stand you in good stead for A.net uploads.

Also - and crucially in my opinion - develop a proper understanding of the difference between the camera and the human eye. Particularly, how exposure works - the relationship between shutter speed and lens aperture and the awareness that altering one of these will affect the other. These variables have a great impact on the resulting image - such as how the f-number affects the resulting depth of field of the recorded image and how the shutter speed affects the result with a moving subject. You can't get much of a scene in sharp focus if the f-number is small (e.g. 2.8, which is a large aperture) and thus the depth of field is very limited; and you can't create a sense of movement if your shutter speed is too fast. Sometimes you will want much of the scene out of focus - for example, in a portrait, but that won't be much use necessarily in aviation photography. Sometimes you will want to freeze movement, but not if you are aiming for a stunning panning shot.

These issues will be in the mind of a good photographer as s/he composes the image and presses the shutter.

Paul
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:35 am

Quoting Alberto Riva (Reply 39):
Go where the others don't, when they are not around, and take the shots they won't take. Get your shoes muddy, your neck sunburnt, your arms scraped by thorns

You forgot to add, "get arrested by the police!" Just kidding. Very good point. Climb trees, scout roofs, cut holes in bushes. Do what it takes to get a new angle.

I will also add, bring a laptop and try to tap into an unsecured WiFi connection. It really helps to know what is coming or going at the airport before you decide to leave.

And, ALWAYS have your camera with you. I can't tell you how many times I have had the 'oh crap' feeling when seeing something cool and missing it because I didn't have my camera in my car.
-Matt
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:43 am

Don't buy a DSLR just because people on here said too! New starters in photography are not going to know how to use one properly.

As Peter said, don't shoot for here. You'll only be constantly angry! At the end of the day, a pic fits into Anet criteria, then thats an added bonus!

And more importantly - There's other brands out there other than Canon!  box 

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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:06 am

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 41):
bring a laptop and try to tap into an unsecured WiFi connection

How do you do that?  scratchchin 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:23 pm

Back up your important photos on another drive or on CD's.
Windows XP may format your hard-drive before installation.

(Make sure the battery is charged)
(Make sure there's enough space on the memorycard)
(check the camera settings before an important photo-shoot)

-Pepef-
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:41 pm

Hold the camera steady (except when panning).
Understand shutter speed, aperture, ISO, white balance.
Practice.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:29 am

Camera gear, check.
Food, check.
Toilet roll, check.
(You know it makes sense!)  relieved 

Spencer.
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:30 am

Spence, bit let down by your checklist there. I would include

Cold Stellas....check
Sandwiches w. Branston Pickle.....check
Pub nearby that serves a decent curry.....check

This checklist might actually only apply at UK airports but still....
what seems to be the officer, problem?
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:28 am

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 47):
Cold Stellas....check
Sandwiches w. Branston Pickle.....check
Pub nearby that serves a decent curry.....check

Very Swedish Chris!  Wink
Simon - London-Aviation.com
 
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RE: 50 Aviation Photography Tips

Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:10 am

Quoting Notar520AC (Reply 43):
Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 41):
bring a laptop and try to tap into an unsecured WiFi connection

How do you do that?

If you have a laptop that searches for wireless connections and if one is near enough, and unsecured, you can connect to it and browse the web. If it is secure, you would need a private password to join the network. I use FBOweb.com to track flights and see what is coming and going in my area. It is great at LAX Imperial Hill. There are plenty of houses with unsecured connections, so surfing A.net between shots is a breeze.
-Matt

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