work4bmi
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TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:44 am

First and foremost,

Thanks to Gerry Hill and Andreas Kratz...

To put it simple, SVT TV have used my photo with out permisson and credited it as them!! I have recieved an email from the company, however only now I realise they never waited for my reply.

So, what do I do now and what price to I command... The scary thing is, I have had reports the photo was used on TV aswell as the web - Any scandinavian a.net's out there let me know if this is indeed true...

Any help, and fast would be most appreciated!

Thanks,
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ChrisH
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:50 am

Is it of one of the alleged CIA-bizjets?

Make sure you take them for some big £!

edit: this the pic?

http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?...a=488642&lid=puff_401860&lpos=bild

[Edited 2005-11-16 22:51:00]

edit again, couple more pics in this vid:

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/share...acenter/index.jsp?d=43606&a=488657

[Edited 2005-11-16 22:52:07]
what seems to be the officer, problem?
 
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airkas1
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:55 am

And the first 2 pics shown are even shown with A.net copyright bar  banghead 
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chksix
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:09 am

When I saw the news they stated that the pictures were found on a site for aviation enthusiasts.

In my opinion they need punishment for meddling in the CIA's business. I don't mind for 1 second if Tangos are transported via Sweden and Europe. Go ahead!
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work4bmi
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:28 am

I cant believe that have done it full stop...

As this has never happened to me personally, I am unsure...

What cost should I be looking at??
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Jan Mogren
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:31 am

Aaron,
check your mail.

/JM
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IngemarE
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:13 pm

Work4bmi,

Congratulations!!
You should have some extra cash heading your way pretty soon!!  Wink thumbsup 

Quoting Chksix (Reply 3):
In my opinion they need punishment for meddling in the CIA's business.

That's just plain stupid!  Yeah sure
Of course SVT should poke their nose into what CIA-operated aircrafts are doing on Swedish soil! Or do think they're entitled to do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it?!
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:27 pm

Happened to me over the summer, but in my case (a helo crash) I just let it go. You might want to go another route.
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:21 pm

Hi guys

Do you know if the TV showed any shoot of N379P, G-V?

I've quite a few problems with this one as it has been usually used without my consent by quite a few shows without my permission...

And to be frank, I haven't been getting any compensation, despite the emails sent to them.

Best regards
Luis Goncalves
 
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:36 pm

Quoting Work4bmi (Thread starter):
So, what do I do now

Go after them. Contact them and name your price.
SVT should be easy to get to.

I strongly advice against just letting it slide..


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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:27 am

Good luck - Many European TV news channels used my picture of the ill-fated Bellview 737 which crashed in Lagos last month, none with permission or credit. I chased after BBC World and they are 'looking into it', and I'm sure it will lead to nothing....

Cheers
Paul
 
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:38 am

Quoting IngemarE (Reply 6):
That's just plain stupid!
Of course SVT should poke their nose into what CIA-operated aircrafts are doing on Swedish soil! Or do think they're entitled to do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it?!

My opinion is that the transports of terrorists from the warzones to Guantanamo etc should not be blocked by countries that are terrorist friendly.

I will not press on with the arguement as my view won't change and yours neither I suppose  Wink
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jamesbuk
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:23 am

As there a TV company i would ask for quit a few thousand say like 7000 pounds as they dont want no bad press as it will reduce viewers so name the price and im quite sure theyll pay it
You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:45 am

Any update Aaron?

/JM
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work4bmi
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:19 am

Jan/All,

At the moment I am waiting for the "picture editor" to contact me. They have apologised and confirmed they did make a mistake - they did not to tell me that, it was quite obvious!!

Anyway, no price has been agreed but they are starting to wind me up so I was thinking of asking for a £1k maybe more... Something telling me that it may be a cheaper and less profile issue for them to pay instead of me seek legal action.
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lennymuir
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:44 am

I told you they are fishing around Aaron.
  

As Tommy said, don't let it drop!

I'm still negociating a deal elsewhere.

(I've missed a few newspaper deadlines too 'coz I haven't replied fast enough)
Damn!

Anyway, good luck.. I know the airplane that's getting all the attention.

...and keep your eyes open, there will be more hawking, I'm sure.

Gerry

[Edited 2005-11-19 00:50:43]
 
tappan
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:47 am

Tell them you will settle for $500.00 US
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Jan Mogren
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:33 pm

Mark,
that is WAAAAY too low.

/JM
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work4bmi
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:12 am

All,

In an update...

"SVT has a right according to the Swedish Copyright Law - following the rules of extended collective agreement - to broadcast a photo without the permission in beforehand by the rightowner. However SVT has a corresponding duty to pay for the use. "

Is the first comment indeed true, are they trying to fob me off?? Can anybody let me know of any good photo copyright law websites?
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:40 am

Quoting Work4bmi (Reply 18):
broadcast a photo without the permission in beforehand by the rightowner.

If that is how they do things, then you can name your price! That is like having work done on your car and not negotiating a price for the labor. The mechanic can charge as much as he wants now the car is fixed. I would up it to £2500 (or find that camera you have had your eye on). The damage has been done, now they need to pay up!
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Jan Mogren
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:44 am

The best you can do is call this guy

http://www.bildombudsmannen.se/english/ "As long as you own the rights we will help you. "


his number is there. Call him.

/JM
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:04 am

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 20):
we will help you. "

at 30% commission for his services.  dollarsign  Could be worse, you might not get anything without his help.  Smile
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work4bmi
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:21 am

All,

I have emailed the contact above (Jan's forward address) and will await his reply. I cant believe a week on from the copyright breach that I am still waiting for any concrete fee from SVT.

Am very angry they seem to be calling the shots, when in my opinion they dont have a choice - You stole the photo, you pay up! I have to wait for their fee and go from there.

Still, we'll see what Staffan has to say.
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:08 am

Quoting Airportugal (Reply 8):
Hi guys

Do you know if the TV showed any shoot of N379P, G-V?

I've quite a few problems with this one as it has been usually used without my consent by quite a few shows without my permission...

Saw it on the BBC the other night as they had a special prog on about the CIA aircraft movements.
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airportugal
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:27 pm

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 23):
Quoting Airportugal (Reply 8):
Hi guys

Do you know if the TV showed any shoot of N379P, G-V?

I've quite a few problems with this one as it has been usually used without my consent by quite a few shows without my permission...

Saw it on the BBC the other night as they had a special prog on about the CIA aircraft movements.

Great... no permission was asked...

I'm feeling quite tempated to take the photo out of the database. The TV station do not answer my emails and since I know nothing of the British law on copyrights I don't know how to act...

Can anyone help me with this?

Best regards
Luis Goncalves
 
lennymuir
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:27 pm

Todays 'The Mail on Sunday' (Scottish edition) newspaper has
uncredited photographs of these aircraft in an large article.

One photog has already told me he hasn't been approached for permission.
Currently checking out the others.

Gerry
 
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RE: TV Uses My Photo - Minus Permission!

Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:51 pm

For those in the UK who are complaining about UK companies I would suggest that if they do not respond in an appropriate manner use the small claims court procedure.

They will have to respond to this. Its all done by paper submission.

Kevin

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