Devil505x
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Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:47 am

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas and I have it narrowed it down to the Nikon D70 and the Canon Digital Rebel (not sure of exact model). I would appreciate anyone's opinion on these cameras and what I should go with. I am leaning towards the Nikon. I would also like people's opinions on lenses for the D70
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:36 am

I am Nikon guy SO my opinion will be self serving. If you get the D70 you have to get the 80-200 2.8. It is an awesome lens. Focuses SO fast it gives you SO much flexibility and it's razor sharp. I also use the 80-400VR which I think is a good lens. Whatever you get best of luck and hope to see some pics of yours here!  airplane 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:41 am

Quoting Devil505x (Thread starter):
My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas

I need to find a girl that will be that generous to me  Wink I think that both are pretty good cameras, but look at what lenses you'll buy when you decide. If you like Canon's line then go with the Rebel, the same if you like Nikon's.

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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:02 pm

I have been exposed to both... oh and does your girlfriend have a sister??? Joking... other wise my gf will cut my BA!!S off!

Anyway, I think that in the past, canon has "claimed" to have better lenses and maybe with "L" glass they are. I think that the nikkor lense are pretty good. Get out and feel them and maybe look for a kit that is already together... that will get you going, and if you are on a budget get a good 70-300is zoom lense... if you go canon and can afford the 70-300 IS you will be off to a good start... try a gig flash card as well... oh and an extra battery

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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:11 pm

I have both and they are great [in my case the problem are not the cameras, is the photographer] Sad

Check @ www.dpreview.com and make your own choice based in your budget. I bet that if you choose one or the other, the results will be great [and quite similar].
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:25 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
If you get the D70 you have to get the 80-200 2.8.

From any specific company?

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 2):
I need to find a girl that will be that generous to me

Oh and this past summer SHE TOOK ME to SXM! Hey she's the breadwinner in this relationship.

Thanks for all the help!
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:42 pm

Quoting Devil505x (Reply 5):
From any specific company?

Best place to get any equipment is the small independent camera store just around the corner.
Support, service, expertise, etc. are all right there. They may cost a few dollars more than some mega warehouse over the internet where you're a number only and served by illegal immigrants or cheap labour from India or China but you get a lot for that and after shipping cost is added you may actually be cheaper buying local (certainly if you ever need service).
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:48 pm

Hey that guy with the private jet can bail us out! Why? HE CAN AFFORD IT!
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:19 pm

Quoting Devil505x (Thread starter):
My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas

HA HA! I tried that one, though it was the battery grip because i'm accessorising for my trips next year. I cant tell you what her answer to that was......

Colin
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:56 pm

Quoting Gmonney (Reply 3):
I think that in the past, canon has "claimed" to have better lenses

Well, they would do that wouldn't they?
Can't see Canon claiming their lenses are actually inferior to Nikon but buy them anyway because we're such nice guys Big grin
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:01 pm

Both are good cameras. I prefer the feel of the D70 in the hand, but that is a personal thing.

If you can, try both before you decide.
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:41 am

I've also been weighing up the Nikon D70 and the Canon 350D/Rebel XT. I haven't any experience with either of them, but I'm inclined towards the Canon because:

-- it seems to be slightly less noisy, not least because its minimum ISO is 100 as compared to 200 for the Nikon, and my current camera has given me a total aversion to noise
-- it has a slightly higher resolution (8 mp as opposed to 6), which can come in handy for making large prints or selling photos to high-spec buyers
-- where long zooms are concerned, the Canon 100-400L focuses faster than the Nikon 80-400 -- a significant consideration for airshows.

I wonder what the experienced guys think about these points.
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:21 am

Personally I would go with sigma Ex Glass,I own both sigma EX and canon L and the sigma is just as good if not better for less money,the sigma 70-200 EX would be a great lens on either the nikon or the canon,go sigma Ex why pay more than you have to. Big grin
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:38 am

And could anyone tell me if the nikon D50 would be just as good. I am mainly going to use the camera for airplane pictures that I hope to post on here and all the other stuff in life you take pictures of. If I was going to get the D50 I figure the difference in cost could go to a better lense.
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:36 pm

D50 focusses slower and has a smaller viewfinder (though still larger than the Canon).
Its smaller weight might also make it more awkward to use with long heavy lenses.
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:51 pm

I very much like the ergonomics of the D70 over either of the Digital Rebels, but I'd probably go with one of the Canons, because of the glass. The absolute top-of-the-line Canon and Nikon glass is going to be very similar, but I believe that Canon has a significant edge in the middle of the price range (I'd consider this to be $300 to $1000). Specifically, the vast majority of equipment used on this site seems to be a medium to long telephoto zoom. The 70-200 f/4L (plus maybe the 1.4X teleconverter) is an absolutely fantastic lens, and is unmatched my anything in the AF-Nikkor line, in terms of the combination of features, quality, and price. In fact, this lens basically lives on my camera now, as I don't think I've used anything else to take aviation pics since I bought it. Ultimately, you'll probably upgrade your camera body if you get one of the Digital Rebels, as they don't have the features of Canon's semi-pro line, but its really the glass, and the photographer that make the picture what it is.
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:35 pm

It's all about your budget for lenses and what standard of quality you would like to have.

If you want more than an average 70-300 lens but rather high quality glass for less money, Canon is the way to go. Their L lenses are less expensive compared to the top-notch Nikkor stuff.
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viv
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:44 pm

Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses.

To refer to "glass" in a photography context is a silly affectation.

I'll have a lens of Guinness, please ...
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:49 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses.

Didn't want to have the term lens in 3 sentences four times, my English teacher wouldn't like that.  angel 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:55 pm

Quoting INNflight (Reply 18):
Didn't want to have the term lens in 3 sentences four times

Well, as long as you don't lose your bottle!
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:49 am

Quoting INNflight (Reply 16):
and what standard of quality you would like to have.

Well I want to have my pictures on this site. Is it safe to say I could accomplish this with a D50 as fairly good photographer.

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses

Or a can either way you are getting beer and thats what really matters!
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:51 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
To refer to "glass" in a photography context is a silly affectation.

Lenses are made of glass. So, if you have a 70-200/f2.8 you've got 2.8 glass  Wink "glass" is just fine in my book. To keep it on topic, go for the D70s!

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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:24 am

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 21):
Lenses are made of glass.

Nope. They are made of glass, plastic, metal, rubber, etc.

That's like saying a car is made of steel, so let's call it "a steel"!
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:44 pm

he can't help it, he's from Ireland  Smile

Photographers worldwide talk about "glass" when they talk about lenses.
It's as good a word as "lens" since technically you're not using a lens at all, a lens being a single piece of glass ground and polished to specifications to change an optical path through diffraction, not the entire assembly of multiple such pieces of glass and the supporting structure  Smile
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:46 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 22):
That's like saying a car is made of steel, so let's call it "a steel"!

Call it what you like but it'll always be "glass" to me.

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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:47 pm

Ah, insults now from the Irish connection. So now anyone who doesn't conform to your idea of correct vocabulary is an imposter?
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:24 am

Go for the Canon 350D and the EF 75-300 III USM lens. It's great!
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:37 pm

If I had to do it again I'd probably lean towards Canon, mainly for the lens choices others have mentioned. Nikon doesn't have a fast focusing long telephoto zoom that won't break the bank. The 80-400 VR is good but compared to Nikon's SWM (AF-S) lenses it seems slow. Canon's 100-400 USM is a perfect lens for avaition photography.

Don't get me wrong, I love my D70 + 70-200 f2.8 lens and have a number of photos on the site with it, just that there are times when I come up a bit short with it and can't get the shot I'd like to.
 
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RE: Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas

Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:37 pm

At the end of the day its the glass that will make the difference with the budget it sounds like you have.
So therefor i'd hunt around work out what is the glass setup that will work best for you and then go with the body that suites.
Fred Miranda's website is full of reviews of various Nikon and Canon lenses.
Both make good camera's with different advantages in different areas so go into a shop and see which feels best for you as feel means a lot in similarly performing cameras.
Read the reviews and get out and check out the gear.
The Sigma EX lenses are good value for money particularly the 80-200 and the 50-500.Lots of shots here and over there with those pieces of kit.
If anything spend more than you thought on the glass and less on the body as it is the defining difference.
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