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Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:29 pm

Question - are pictures of full-size UAVs such as the General Atomics RQ-1 Predator (see link)

http://www.airteamimages.com/display.php?phtID=18082

allowed on the DB, or is it manned a/c only - FWIW Predators are of a similar size to a Cessna single and have "real aircraft" USAF serial numbers. There are a couple of Predator images on the DB but they're from a while ago so I'm not sure of current policy.

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:40 pm

Unmanned air vehicle, aircraft is.

UAV, wave of the future is.

Disagree, screeners may.

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:30 am

The Aviation Nation airshow at Nellis this year was the billed as the first aerial demonstration at a public airshow of the Predator. During the show on Saturday (I was photographing at McCarran on Sunday) the Predator was orbiting above providing aerial images shown to the crowd on the big screens at either end of the show line. After the Thunderbirds performed, a Predator made a simulated Hellfire rocket attack. I thought it ironic that the Thunderbirds normally are the finale of an airshow, but, at their homecoming performance, they were followed by the unmanned RQ-1. Could it be a harbinger of things to come?
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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:48 am

Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:02 am

Perhaps that should be reviewed. There's no restriction on unmanned balloons.


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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:28 am

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

Oh?


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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:03 am

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 5):
Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.


Oh?

Dont know what to say to that one..

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:46 am

They are aircraft, and should be allowed into the database. And it looks they already have been.

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:52 pm

Quoting TFSPhoto (Reply 6):
Dont know what to say to that one..

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:50 am

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

If it's unfortunate, perhaps we should look at changing the rules? I'm not a huge fan of UAV's, but if others want to see them, I think they should be allowed in.
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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed

Then there are three images that have to be removed from the database Tamsin - see above.

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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting Skymonster (Reply 12):
Then there are three images that have to be removed from the database Tamsin - see above.

There are also numerous pictures of the Northrup Global Hawk in the database as well that would need to be removed
 
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RE: Full-size UAVs Allowed?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:58 am

All

UAVs are not permitted into the database. This issue has long been a hot topic of debate within the crew, with some UAVs closely resembling conventional aircraft while others are more akin to radio-controlled scale models or even guided missiles.

In order to draw a very clear line in the sand and remove any ambiguity, the rule is that no UAVs are allowed to enter the database.

Having discussed with Johan, we cannot recall exactly what date this decision became policy. Therefore all existing images should remain. As always, photos are judged by the contemporary standards at the time of screening. Quite obviously it would be unfair to retrospectively apply a rule to previously accepted images. Only in absolutely exceptional circumstances are images retrospectively judged (if they cause significant offence, etc). This is not such a situation.

So, in summary, those in the db will stay. No further UAVs will be accepted. If you notice one which sneaked into the db by mistake, just email the screeners and we'll take care of that. We're not always perfect!  Wink

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