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Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:49 am

An article from the Toronto Globe and Mail made my local paper today. It tells how spotters tipped the world to secret CIA prisoner flights in Europe. Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find it, if so. Here's the link to the original story, dated 12/5:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...nternational/?query=plane+spotters

Not sure if this is positive exposure for the spotting hobby or not, but it certainly is exposure.
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:08 am

This guy, Luis Goncalves, has pics on here:

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...hotographersearch=Luis%20Goncalves

The photo in question? :


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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 1):
The photo in question? :

It is, and is the only one I found. The article makes it sound like there were many--did something happen to them?
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:06 am

Quoting C133 (Reply 2):
The article makes it sound like there were many--did something happen to them?

I just searched a few minutes ago (by clicking on his name in that photo's caption) and turned up 703 pictures.

As he stated in the article, I too fear that this could bring us more unwanted attention around the airport.
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:41 am

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 3):
I just searched a few minutes ago (by clicking on his name in that photo's caption) and turned up 703 pictures.

But, only one of the subject aircraft.
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:54 pm

Quoting C133 (Reply 4):
one of the subject aircraft.

I misread your post then, sorry  blush 

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 5):
I believe we have done good by exposing an operation the CIA should not be conducting, the clandestine transfering of prisoners to less-than-friendly nations.

Be that as it may, I still believe that the CIA may start paying closer attention to spotters. I really don't see the local PD changing their attitudes towards us, but that doesn't mean the CIA won't come a knockin'. Those that want to keep things secret don't like those who would shed light on their activities.

But this is really speculation. I'm certainly not going to change my spotting habits because of this article.
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:24 pm

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 5):
I really don't see the local PD changing their attitudes towards us, but that doesn't mean the CIA won't come a knockin'. Those that want to keep things secret don't like those who would shed light on their activities.

This is why in America we have this wonderful thing called freedom of the press. If a CIA G-man ever comes a knockin with some questions, all you simply have to do is answer every question truthfully (remember, you're doing nothing illegal), then when they leave all you have to do is send an e-mail to your local news outlet of choice describing the incident (The CIA told me to stop doing a legal activity because it hurts their interests), and let them run with it (or not) from there. If you really feel unnerved about it, contact your state representative/congressman in a nice friendly letter. You probably won't get anywhere with it, but it might make you feel better  Wink
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:55 pm

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 6):
then when they leave all you have to do is send an e-mail to your local news outlet of choice describing the incident

Assuming they identify themselves and they let you remember the visit




But I'm not worried. Having been in Corrections as long as I have, I have a nasty habit of always thinking "what if" and such. That, and I tend not to attract as much attention while spotting as some people, who shall remain nameless.  mischievous   stirthepot 

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 6):
If you really feel unnerved about it, contact your state representative/congressman in a nice friendly letter

Excellent advice!  yes 
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RE: Spotters In The News

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:22 pm

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
That, and I tend not to attract as much attention while spotting as some people, who shall remain nameless.

Hey, just because your olympus doesn't have the appearance of a "shoulder fired missle launcher" doesn't mean you can...  Silly
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