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Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:37 am

Hi all,

The following photo was rejected for quality & size:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0051213_20050222_144111_PH-KCG.jpg

I really like the photo (Little spotter vs. big plane, nice Caribbean sea etc.) and would like it to be accepted. Please help me to improve it...

1) Does the size have to be exactly 2:3? This one was 682x1024, and I think it should have been 683x1024, right?

2) About the quality: What exactly is wrong and how should I try to improve that?

BR, Teemu
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:33 am

HI Teemu
I personally think your shot is excellent.
Well composed and the lighting is good and the theme is very cool.
Size is fine and i have no idea why it would be rejected for that.
As for quality noone here knows at th emoment what specifically quality may mean but the screener didnt like something about the shot.
Personally i cant see whats not to like but i am not out to find issues.
The crew did say something about flightdeck shots with fisheye's a while ago but not sure if that carries over to general shots.
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:53 am

Hi Darren,

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 1):
I personally think your shot is excellent.

Thanks!

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 1):
The crew did say something about flightdeck shots with fisheye's a while ago but not sure if that carries over to general shots.

You must mean this message. But then it should have been rejected for motive? And IMHO it's quite obvious what I'm trying to achieve with fisheye - The plane is almost straight above me & the little spotter on that photo...

Any other comments / suggestions? How to improve the quality?

BR, Teemu
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:47 am

Lovely shot, but horrible Speedos!

[Edited 2005-12-16 18:08:57]
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:03 am

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 3):
Lovely shot, but horrible Speedo's!

NOA_Motive...

LOL Big grin
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:55 am

But seriously... Would someone please give me any suggestions for improving the quality? Screeners? Anyone?

Or just say that the photo sucks and has no chance to be accepted, so I can forget it...  Wink

BR, Teemu
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:52 am

Hi Teemu.

Great shot I must say. Next time though , replace the guy in the speedo with a woman in a bikini please...  Wink

About the quality. I think this pic is backlit , giving the aircraft a dark look. There is quite alot of grain visible on the aircraft.

Generally I feel the photo is a tad soft. Try some USM but I feel this won't help too much.

Good luck and sorry if I couldn't be of more help!

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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:32 am

Hi Teemu

When seeing the pic for the first time, my eyes are drawn to the boy looking up at the aircraft and not the aircraft itself. This would suggest motiv for me as previously suggested.

Overall Qual for me also. The image is overall dark and the photo looks softish mainly the a/c from the engines all the way forward to the nose. Factors like that all adds up to Qual / Scan.

The standards at airliners.net are a lot higher compared to a couple of years ago. That what makes us the top site.

This is just my personal views as a screener, but if you feel hard done to, by all means appeal the shot and our respected Head screeners who will look at the shot again.

Sizes:-

For Landscape:-

1000 x (between) 667 and 750
1024 x (between) 683 and 768
1100 x (between) 733 and 825
1200 x (between) 800 and 900
1300 x (between) 866 and 975
1400 x (between) 933 and 1050
1500 x (between) 1000 and 1125
1600 x (between) 1066 and 1200

and Portrait:-

667 x (between) 750 and 1000
683 x (between) 768 and 1024
733 x (between) 825 and 1100
800 x (between) 900 and 1200
866 x (between) 975 and 1300
933 x (between) 1050 and 1400
1000 x (between) 1125 and 1500
1066 x (between) 1200 and 1600

The 'between' sizes apply to the 2 different ratio sizes.

Some of the size rejections may seem at bit harsh, although we do give a bit of come and go. I do reject for size even if the size is not out by miles. But only along with another definite rejection category. This hopefully advises the photographer to watch out for the size guidelines while carrying out the rescan for the main rejection reasons and for future reference.

All the Best
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:17 am

Hi David,

Thanks for the clarification. You can be sure I won't appeal, but I'll try to improve the quality with complete rework from the original. Might be (too) difficult, but we'll see...

About the motive: IMHO it's good to have something that draws your attention first and directs you to the main subject. If that would have been a woman in bikini, your eyes wouldn't never notice the a/c and then it would have been NOA_Motive.  Wink

Quoting Davidu (Reply 7):
The standards at airliners.net are a lot higher compared to a couple of years ago. That what makes us the top site.

...and that's why I upload here.  bigthumbsup 

BR, Teemu
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting Davidu (Reply 7):
The standards at airliners.net are a lot higher compared to a couple of years ago. That what makes us the top site.

for some people.

As for this shot,I think this is very high quality and the motive is unique and is a very good use of a fisheye.....
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:23 am

Ok, here's the same photo after a complete rework from the original:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/20050222_144111_PH-KCG_v2.jpg

Less grain, some more USM and a little bit brighter.

What do you think? Does this one have a chance or should I remove it from the queue?

BR, Teemu
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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:26 am

Teemu

The aircraft looks blurry and neatimages (correct?)

Not really an improvement over the first version.

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RE: Please Help With Quality / Size Rejection

Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:39 am

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 11):
Not really an improvement over the first version.

Ok. Thanks!

Removed from queue.

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 11):
neatimages (correct?)

No. PSE3...

BR, Teemu
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