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Fiveholer
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Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:20 am

Hey all, I am flying out to LAX next month on F9. I really want to get some inflight shots from the back with all the PTVs on. I am sitting in row 17, only 5 rows from the rear. I don't want to freak anyone out by getting up with my camera. I imagine the DEN-LAX flights are pretty full too. Do you guys usually kinda go incognito or do you ask the FAs? Thanks!

Danny
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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:34 am

You can pretend you are going to use the restroom, then snap a few pics. Go into the lav, come out and snap a few more. It should work if you are on the sly about it. Good luck, hope to see you out on Imperial Hill. Pray for good weather too, we have been having clouds for the last 2 weeks.
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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:46 am

Don't use a flash, that will only draw attention on you.
Also make sure you meter the light and have the correct settings set before you walk back... taking multiple shots with different exposures, apertures and ISO settings will only draw more attention on you.
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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:40 am

Quoting INNflight (Reply 2):
Don't use a flash, that will only draw attention on you.
Also make sure you meter the light and have the correct settings set before you walk back... taking multiple shots with different exposures, apertures and ISO settings will only draw more attention on you.

Yeah, I don't want to draw attention to myself. I would think it would be hard to get the settings from your seat though...being right next to the window and also your zoom, etc would not be the same. I would almost have to take a few in the rear to get it right. I'll prolly chicken out, lol

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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:43 am

Well in the past I have just got up and started taking photos. I try and be as inconspicuous as I possibly can. But there have been times where I've asked an FA if I'm getting a strange vibe about doing what I am. To be honest with you there is no point in creeping about like a peeping Tom, that'll only make things even more dodgy for you.

As Flo said, make sure you've got your settings all in place before you walk back. It saves a lot of time. But if not I wouldn't worry about it too much, I usually take numerous shots with a few varied aperture/shutter settings. Just so that if I really do eff up one shot, I could possibly have something to fall back on.

Have a nice flight and I look forward to seeing some shots uploaded.

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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:24 am

If you're flying with a friend or family, that makes things easier: you can take some pictures of each other first. That doesn't create any paranoia. Then add a few cabin shots, voila...
 
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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:10 pm

Quoting Edoca (Reply 5):
If you're flying with a friend or family, that makes things easier: you can take some pictures of each other first. That doesn't create any paranoia. Then add a few cabin shots, voila...

yeh thtas a great suggestion~ just put them at the far side and then pretend to be taking shots of them =D
hehe

i guess if its a dark cabin.. you shoudl be able to make a slight estimate of the metering you shoudl be usign at you seat..

AV~ set to the widest apperture with like ISO 400?? :s im not entirely sure dependent on the situation but usually i just walk to the back of the plane and have no problem with snapping shots..

recently on ORD-HKG~ i was at the back of a 747 and i was jsut snapping away and nothign ahppened.. FAs walked past, passengers looked at me but nothing happened~ i dunno if thats only becuase its an asian/intl flight but for me nothign has ever happened

good luck. just dont freak out or look overly suspicious .. just act normal like u're doing a typical thing then nothgin will happen =)

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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:09 am

Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 3):
I would think it would be hard to get the settings from your seat though.

No offense Danny, but this tells me how much people know about photography these days. Somtimes it helps if you know the basics first!

Anyway, the setting are depending on a few factors: lens, light, f-stop, ISO,

On ISO 100 you might get away with 1/25 up to 1/40 sec if you have enough light available and a fast lens.

I have taken cabin shots with 2-3 sec exposure time at ISO 400 and they came out ok. Trial and error.

You can do the following from you seat. Point the camera towards the front of the cabin and read the meter. This will give you a basic idea what you need!

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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:23 pm

OOOOOOOOOOK!!! Mr. Garcia is here..knew he'd come along.. (MASTER of dark cabin shots)
listen to this guy..out of the BEST dark cabin pics i can recall seeing on a.net they're by Vasco.. he knows perfeclty well what to do at the back of a dark cabin..

i asked him before what kind of metering to use at the back and he's given excellent suggestions =D and they work!!!!!


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depending on what lens/camera you're using the efffect would be totally different.. if you're using a camera with a relatively small sensor i highly reccomend not bringing your ISO as high as 800 or 1600 cuz the pic will get really really noisy.....

canon has the best noise reduction so if u're usinga canon a higher ISO is totally fine sometimes 1600 is still very very insignificant

another factor is your lens? if Canon lens does it have IS(image stabilizer) with IS you can take your shots 2 steps lower meaning you can take your shots 2 steps lower than what it would typically take without IS

thumb rule focal length = 1/focal length (minimum shutter speed)

e.g. u're taking at 28mm MINIMUM SHUTTER SPEED: 1/28

but with IS u can take a 28mm shot at maybe 1/10 second becuase its able to minimize and reduce camera shake

Nikon lens has the same funciton i belive its called VX??


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i liek this shot a lot.. see using a Canon at ISO 1600, the noise is still minimal compared to most cameras...

at 1/2 second.. this guy might/might not be using an IS lens.. well from this pic u can deduce that even in a very dark cabin 1/2 sec at f/3.5 and iso 1600 pics sitll turn out great so its all up to trial and error like what vasco said =)

at the back of heavys i tend to use an IS lens and at iso 800 i snap it at around 0.8 seconds f/3.5

hope this helps
tim
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RE: Imput On Cabin Photos.

Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:26 pm

woops
my bad take no offence in what i was trying to say~not coaching u here.. but just suggestions

from your site. your pics look great ~ without a doubt your equipment shoudl be able to handle great night shots

good luck

tim
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