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From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:54 am

I'm having some nightmare problems recently with this issue!!!!

I'm a D70 user since the 2nd week the camera was in the market and now I'm thinking on going for something more or either staying with the D70 for a little more...

What do you guys recommend??? Has anyone here switch from the D70 to D200???

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:11 am

If you just want the D200 for here you'd be wasting your money in my opinion. If you other photographic uses for it, then it may be worth while, depending what they are.
 
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:11 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
What do you guys recommend??? Has anyone here switch from the D70 to D200???

It really depends on what you consider "worth-it". For me, I do print a lot of 12x18's and 16x20's so I would say yes, it's worth the upgrade. Plus, all of the other features important to me like faster AF, larger screen, available Nikon grip, etc.

I haven't been able to get my hands on a new D200 yet (sold-out). I'm going to wait until they become available without the need to be put on a waiting list, delivery slot or call every tom, dick and harry photo shop in the US  Smile I'm in no rush, the D70 still puts out some damn fine photos.

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 2):
I haven't been able to get my hands on a new D200 yet (sold-out). I'm going to wait until they become available without the need to be put on a waiting list, delivery slot or call every tom, dick and harry photo shop in the US I'm in no rush, the D70 still puts out some damn fine photos.

Me neither but I am getting one!  yes  That camera looks too sweet! My D70 will be available this spring for any interested.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:47 am

I have made the jump. The D200 is ergonomically much better than the D70, and the metering system is far superior.

For me, it was worth it. I do a lot more with it than aircraft photography
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:07 am

Since i´m a little bit short time i´ll just a link to that other discussion. It has some sample photos in it.
RE: Some D200 Samples...WOW! (by Viv Dec 31 2005 in Aviation Photography)#ID213866

by the way, for me, it was worth every penny. My trusted D70 is sitting on my desk untouched since i got my D200.

More later, if i find some time,

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:42 am

why not keep the d70 in your bad with another lens on it?

Changing lenses in the field is for chumps  Smile
 
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:14 am

I mad the jump, and I would recommend it to anyone, if you have the spare cash. I am very happy with the results, to me personally clearly superior to the D70. However, as Royal said, I'll keep the D70 as a backup.

Denis said it, go check the samples in the above liked thread.

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:49 pm

Ricardo, You're a professional. I'm not. But I strongly recommend you, to keep your D70 and buy some new accessories [like new lenses that fit the D200 also for the future].

I know your work, and it really is very professional.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:02 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 6):
why not keep the d70 in your bad with another lens on it?

Changing lenses in the field is for chumps

I like the way you think Royal!  biggrin 

I may do that!

I can't wait to get the 200!
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:54 pm

To be honest, I've seen some D200 pictures come by while screening and I don't see very much difference to a D70 shot. But if you want to make posters out of your images or if you need the speed; yes, it would be a nice upgrade.

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:54 pm

D200 images are better quality, but for the tiny things you see on a computer screen it doesn't matter much.
D70 images can be made to look the same, just takes more work.

Main reason (if all you care about is looking at your images on the computer or TV) then is the ergonomics and feature set of the camera.
Whether that's worth it is a highly personal choice.

For me (using an F100) the D70 just didn't cut it (too small, light, slow). The D200 does, but doesn't match the maximum price I've set myself for a DSLR.
So I'm waiting until the price drops a good deal (which I think will be sometime mid 2007) before I might take the plunge and add a 5th camera to my collection.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:29 pm

For me personally, I find quite a big difference to a D70 and D200 shot. But that is probably because of, as JWenting said, the amount of processing required for a D70 pic to get it to look good is quite a lot. For a D200 shot, it's good to go almost immediately. And silky smooth at ISO100 Big grin

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:30 am

For those thinking about the D200, here's a nice page to visit:
http://www.nikondigitutor.com/eng/d200/index.shtml

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:37 am

Hey!! Thanks a lot for your comments and samples!!!

I mainly use it for a.net, some mags, newspapers and for 20x28's prints.

As a student, for now, I can't afford the D200 so I will sell my D70 and put some extra cash and get my D200!!!

I've taken a decision!! I'm going for it, but I will be patient as Mike and wait for it to be handy in every US camera shop!!

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:37 am

D200 yes but when!  old 
I want to be able to make poster size of warbirds in action.

D70 will be on sale when I get mine.  hyper 

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:21 am

I'd like to make the jump, but I'm hesitating because I'd need to double my D70's worth to get the D200 OR I could get better lens eg. switch my 80-200 to a 70-200 VR or get a 300/4 lens. Now that's a thought  headache 
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:05 pm

I hope that the D200 ISO noise is better. I am not too thrilled with the grain I get just from ISO400 on my D70. That is about the only thing I could bitch about with the D70. The D200 is supposed to be much better for that. I will wait for prices to go down and for Nikon to fix the banding problem that I have been reading about on fredmiranda.com. They dont have a fix and they are replacing cameras with new ones. Just like new cars you have to wait until the Beta testers (consumers) work all the problems out of them.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:34 am

I made the jump from the D70 to the D200 and not a moment too soon. One week after I got the D200 my D70 suffered the BGLOD (Blinking Green LED of Death). I just sent it back to Nikon for the free out of warranty repair.

For me the jump was really necessary not because of image quality but because of ergonomics and metering. The D70 has let me down on several occasions. I've covered it all before but basically the issues were the program knob did not have an interlock, ISO200 grain, frame rate and inability to shoot a sequence of shots with center weighted metering.

So far, I'm very happy with the D200. The display is huge and fantastic (you can zoom to 2x!), the control layout is the same as the F100 where ever possible and IT'S FAST!!!

As for image quality: as someone said, you can't really see any difference on a resized and processed image on the web. But, right out the camera the image exposure is far better than the D70.

Time will tell. I will buy the grip for it soon and the extra battery.

Now I just wait for Nikon to come out with an 80-400 VR AF-S MKII

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:57 am

Some points I have noted since the switch from the D70 to the D200.

-Better Metering. Exposures more spot on especially when photographing white aircraft. The D70 more often over exposed.

-Much Much Better White Balance. The white balance on the D70 was often wrong in high contrast situations (tending towards blue/green) and needed to be corrected. But with the D200 no correction is needed, the white balance seem to be always spot on.

-Better saturation in the shots direct out of the camera. The colour level now doesn't need any tweaking on dull days like it did in the D70.

-As a results the shots straight out of the camera need a lot less work in PS. In fact mostly what I do now is crop and straighten. Not much need for USM as you can add sharpening from the camera. Because of the higher amount of pixels, now you can crop a lot more shots that you were a bit off on and not worry about the reduction in quality.

-Much faster to use and easier to move between settings (using shooting banks).

There are many minor details that just make it a joy to shoot with. There have been some people that have moved from the D70 to the D200 and not fully understood some of the basics of Photography. They used the programmed modes on the D70 and theres none of that on the D200. if you understand the basics you should be able to move to the D200 easily.

My first D200 photos I took of Aircraft are uploaded here, and I basically just took it out of the box and started shooting. Apart from cropping I didn't do much more to the pics and they were accepted. Wouldn't have happened with the D70.

Hope this helps

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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:24 pm

Quoting Sunilgupta (Reply 18):
Now I just wait for Nikon to come out with an 80-400 VR AF-S MKII

That would be sweet! Or reduce the price of the 200-400VR by about 75%.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:01 am

Quoting Kereru (Reply 15):
D200 yes but when!

In about 2 weeks or so.
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:20 am

What about the banding issue that everyone is ranting about on the dpreview website?
 
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RE: From D70 To D200 Worth?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 22):
What about the banding issue that everyone is ranting about on the dpreview website?

We are talking about two very different models.
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