flyfisher1976
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Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:01 pm

I need some general opinions on this shot...will it make it through the queue?
If not, what could I do to improve it? I don't have a lot of experience editing shots like this. I have the original file in raw.
Thanks in advance.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/2005_01_10_IMG_2541_BOS_UNK.jpg
 
linco22
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:26 pm

First opinions are that all the light is in the top half of the frame....Its a nice shot dont get me wrong but its a bit distracting having nothing in the lower half. The buildings seem a little grainy, perhaps over sharpened a little. I dont have any experience editing shots like this or working with many so others might be able to help more.

Regards
Colin
 
IngemarE
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:49 pm

In this case, if I were you, I'd take my chances with a "bad-centered" crop.
That pitch black bottom-part of the picture does nothing to the pic as a whole. If you see what I mean?  scratchchin 

As a viewer, I'd prefer to see a little more of the streaks of light.  thumbsup 
In thrust I trust.
 
flyfisher1976
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:21 pm

Thanks for the quick replies...good point...I will pull it from the queue..
How about either of these?

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/743/img25089dj.jpg

Or...

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6836/img2511edit1lc.jpg

I would like to submit one or both...do they need anything?
Thanks again!
 
ChrisH
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:29 pm

The second shot there is brilliant. I would darken it slightly more and maybe reduce noise. Very cool, which airport is this?
what seems to be the officer, problem?
 
flyfisher1976
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:35 pm

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
The second shot there is brilliant.

Thanks!

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
Very cool, which airport is this?

This is Boston Logan Airport shot from the 27 approach.

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
I would darken it slightly more and maybe reduce noise.

I don't really see the noise...maybe its this monitor. Any other opinions?
 
dendrobatid
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:38 pm

I think it has all been said about your first photo.
The rule of thirds is a good guide and there is far too much dark at the bottom. The top one of the other two you asked for comments on is the same, but in reverse, far too much blank sky. That would make a very nice long thin photo, but not for this site due to the size constraints that are imposed on us.
The last one I really like, but as Chris said, it needs to be a bit darker, particularly above the waterline....below it it is spot on. I am sure Photoshop could work some magic there ! The object in the water is less distracting than in the one above too. That would be a good point to consider if you go to try again
I guess the airport is Logan ?
Mick Bajcar
 
martin21
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:39 pm

I think its Boston ?

Like the last 2 picts, they are really great !
But I agree with ChrisH about the darkness. Also check the sharpness of your photo's. I hope these 2 are not the originals because the quality is to low. And the light lines are not straight, IMO it looks like the camera was (a bit) shaking during exposure ?!

Martin21
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SA006
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:44 pm

Hi there.

The first shot will probably get NOA_Motiv due to the object in the foreground being a bit distracting.

The second photo is great though! I think there's a bit of grain but not enough to cause a grain rejection IMO. Great shot , give it a go.

-SA006  wave 
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flyfisher1976
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 6):
The last one I really like, but as Chris said, it needs to be a bit darker, particularly above the waterline....below it it is spot on. I am sure Photoshop could work some magic there ! The object in the water is less distracting than in the one above too. That would be a good point to consider if you go to try again
I guess the airport is Logan ?
Mick Bajcar

Thanks Mick...Would this be done with some sort of layer or masking? Would shadow/highlight help?

Quoting Martin21 (Reply 7):
I hope these 2 are not the originals because the quality is to low. And the light lines are not straight, IMO it looks like the camera was (a bit) shaking during exposure ?!

Definetly no camera shake involved. The camera was mounted on a very sturdy tripod and triggered with a remote switch. Does anyone else agree with this opinion? If so, maybe some adjustment is required in this area.
Thanks!
 
martin21
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:53 pm

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Definetly no camera shake involved. The camera was mounted on a very sturdy tripod and triggered with a remote switch.

I believe you when you say that the camera didn't move, so that is out of the question. But It's still the fact that the lines drawn by the aircraft lights have a real weird pattern. I think it happened during exposure. Any one to explain this ?

Martin21
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dendrobatid
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:04 pm

I don't see a problem with the grain either.
The straight waterline should make this an easy image to work on.
As a point of interest regarding the noise....
There is a tendency to think...it is dark, therefore increase the ISO.
This is the wrong course of action and in fact the ISO should be lowered, probably to its minimum. The camera is on a tripod so camera shake is not a problem.
The dark areas are prone to noise and lowering teh ISO helps to minimise this.
Flyfisher....check your inbox for an off forum message from me
Mick Bajcar
 
ChrisH
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:07 am

I had a quick go, hope you dont mind. This is how I would edit it if the pic were mine, but it's all down to taste. Put a black border around it to get better feel of contrast.

http://www.stockholm.bonet.se/chris_h/img2511.jpg
what seems to be the officer, problem?
 
flyfisher1976
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RE: Your Opinions Please...Re-edit?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:41 pm

Thanks for taking the time to help me with these shots. Both Chris and Mick seem to think that this shot looks better darker. I would frame this shot in the lighter version to put on my wall. However, since the general concensus for acceptance here is the darker version, I will go with that. Mick also pointed out that this shot is loaded up with dustspots. I guess I missed this step in the workflow. I have my work cut out for me. Thanks for all the help!
JD

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