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12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:14 am

Hi all,

the Headline almost says it all.

Does anyone own one of those lenses, or got a chance to compare them?

I´ve been through several google searches and the opinions on the Tokina range from "much better than the nikon", over "same quality, but better price" to "absolute crap".

So, any opinions here?

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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:25 am

I have only used the Nikon, and it was great, but at $1000 quite a bit of money.

You might also look at the Signa, which can also be used on 35mm film bodies...
 
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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:41 am

I have the Nikon 12-24mm and think it's a damn fine lens. In photography, as in much of life, you get what you pay for.

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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:00 pm

As Swedish photo-magazine ( named: Foto) had a test, not too long ago, where they tested 12-24's from Nikon, Sigma and Tokina.

The Tokina came out on top, by quite a margin! I tried it, and I liked it. Most of all, I liked the end-results.
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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:33 pm

Ingemar, I've also seen a test in a Dutch magazine where they tested the 28-70 AF-S and 80-200 AF-S against the Tamron 28-200 Mk II.
The Tamron came out on top by a wide margin...

The reasoning was simple: the Tamron is cheaper, lighter, and smaller, and you never have to switch lenses.
The optics were never taken into consideration at all.

That same issue had 2 fullpage ads for Tamron, they'd not carried a single ad of any size for Nikon in almost a year.

Not saying the Tokina isn't a good lens, but I've seen enough incredibly bad reviews to not place much confidence in them.

For wideangles especially I'd always go for Nikon. They are the kings in wideangle lens design.
Tokina are probably good seconds, a group of Nikon lens designers leaving the company to start their own must have some expertise  Wink
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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:52 pm

Jwenting,

You cheeky b*gger!  Big grin

Seriously though.......
This was a strict "performance-test", without any considerations to pricing.
"Foto" usually carries a lot of Nikon adverts, so I don't think this was a "ad-hoc"-job.  Wink

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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:27 pm

cheeky? Sure. But I'm no bugger Big grin

Personally I've lost my soul to prime Nikkors. If I were looking for a very short lens for a DSLR I'd look no further than the 10.5mm DX Nikkor.
Sure it's a fisheye, but that would make it distintly different from the 20 and 35mm Nikkors I already have...
If I had a requirement for something that's not a wideangle I'd go for the 14mm Nikkor instead if I had the money.

For the money I can see how a magazine would call the Tokina the better buy compared to the Nikkor based on value for money.
At half the price and probably close to 90% the optical quality it's a steal.
And I must say I absolutely love my Tokina 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 AT-X Pro. It's an excellent lens and I see no reason to replace it with the equivalent Nikkor even if I'd nothing better to do with €1500 (compared to the good 300 I paid for the Tokina, bought it discounted when it was discontinued).
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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:28 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 6):
Tokina 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 AT-X Pro

Hmmmm,....need to check that one out!
2.6 - 2.8! That's odd. To say the least!

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 6):
cheeky? Sure. But I'm no bugger

What can I say!?! My language is rather "colorful"! Big grin
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RE: 12-24 Mm, Nikon Vs. Tokina

Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:21 am

the f/2.6-2.8 was replaced by the f/2.8 in 2001 or early 2002.
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