WexCan
Posts: 79
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:45 am

New To Aviation Photography

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:51 am

Hey All,

Annoying newbie question here. Always been an avid spotter and enthusiast but hoping now to get into aviation photography (prompted by my need to get a new camera anyway).

Does anyone have any camera recommendations? What lenses should I go with? Things like that. Budget is around about €850 to €1000 but of course the cheaper the better.

Any help much appreciated.

Chris.
 
Psych
Posts: 2944
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:17 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:07 am

Hello Chris.

Welcome to the Forum.

My hunch is that you are going to get lots of conflicting information and advice on this one - different recommendations will have different pro's and con's.

In your situation I would argue that you should go for a DSLR camera with a decent lens that will give good results. I use the Canon 300D, together with the 75-300mm IS lens. My feeling is that Canon are the favoured producer for members here, as opposed to Nikon, though there will be many favouring the Nikon option. Both of my pieces of kit have now been superseded - the 350D is the current 'cheaper' good quality option, and the zoom lens has recently been replaced by an upgrade. But this will not disappoint and will allow you to produce images that you can upload.

To give you a flavour, you can look at my photos here. Don't forget, this new combination should be even better than this.

I'm not sure about prices these days, but you'll easily find that out on the Net.

Good luck and feel free to ask more questions.

Paul
 
b757300
Posts: 3914
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2000 10:27 pm

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:26 am

I'll second the Canon 350D (Digital Rebel XT) as that is what I use.

For your price range, I'm really not sure which lens to suggest. However, I do not recommend the Canon 75-300mm IS lens. I have it and way too many of my pictures end up being unusable. The lens has a nasty habit of turning out pictures that are way too soft.

I've been looking at two Sigma lens but both of those cost about $1,000 so I'm not sure what to recommend in your price range.
"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
 
WexCan
Posts: 79
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:45 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:32 am

Thanks for advice so far  Smile The 350D body with the normal 18-55 lens is €868 (best price I can see). "CANON EOS 350D + EF-S 18-55 II + EF 55-200 USM + BG-E3 grip" is €1173 from the same retailer, which I could stretch to but methinks a longer range lens might be needed?
 
unattendedbag
Posts: 2154
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:35 pm

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:37 am

see this thread
Selling Nikon Gear. (by Rotate Jan 26 2006 in Aviation Photography)
Slower traffic, keep right
 
WexCan
Posts: 79
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:45 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:16 am

What would people think of a kit like this:

EOS 350 D double zoom Kit with 18-55 + 55-200 + BG-E3

Anything else that should be added? What's a BG-E3? (The shame lol)
 
Psych
Posts: 2944
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:17 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:21 am

Hi Chris.

I think the BG-E3 will be a battery grip - it goes on the bottom of the camera and you can put in an extra battery, plus this gives you an alternative shutter such that it is in the 'normal' position for your finger when you take a portrait shot (so you don't have to slightly contort your finger around). I have never used a battery grip, but many like it, not least because it gives the camera body a different feel. This may be quite significant for the 350D, because it is notably smaller than the normal sized (D)SLR camera.

Again, all this stuff is very subjective, and I know nothing about the longer zoom lens you mention. However, I would argue that there are a lot of photos that you might not be able to take if you don't have the extra reach of a longer telephoto. My preference would be to have the reach of something longer. Before I had the IS version of the 75-300mm lens I used the standard Canon 75-300mm USM. If you go back to my photos the first few months or so uploads were taken with this lens. This isn't that much more than £100 and something new, but not bad at all as an all-purpose longer zoom lens.

All the best.

Paul
 
norfolkjohn
Posts: 251
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:20 pm

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:45 am

Chris,

Paul is quite correct about the battery grip. They cost about £120 to buy as a separtate item but I would question whether it is the sort of thing you really need. (I have never found the need for a BG on my 10D or 20D).

As regards the lenses that come in the kit they are IMHO not two of Canon's better offerings. They are fine for general purpose photography but they do not do justice to the capabilities of a camera like the 350D.

I would recommend you by the camera body and then go for the best lens / lenses you can afford. Given that you need a first "starter" lens the 75-300 that Paul suggests is probably a fair choice. I see a UK internet price of £159 for the latest version of this one. If you are able to spend a bit more then the new 70-300 USM IS may be an option. Although I have no personal knowledge of this lens I would expect it to perform fairly well and it covers a good focal length range for aviation photography as well as having the benefit of Image Stabilization. The cost is about £369 however.

The other thing I would suggest you seriously consider is to buy the body then look for good quality second hand lenses. This may take some leg (or internet) work but you may get much better quality kit without blowing your budget.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth.

Good luck,

John
One thorn of experience is worth a whole wilderness of warning.
 
TACAA320
Posts: 7153
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:03 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:05 am

I recommend you the D70. You may see here some great results >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/steveengland/d70
'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein
 
fergulmcc
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:36 pm

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:16 am

Chris I have a 10D for sale with a bettery grip and a 28-90mm usm lens in mint condition. Some of the photographers here will vouch on its condition. Drop me an e-mail through my profile if you want to look at it. I have all the boxes and software to go with. I live in Dublin but not for long as I am moving shortly in the next week so you will need to act fast.
You can view my photos taken with the 10D on my profile via Pbase and here on airliners.net

Take care

Fergul  sun 
Zambian Airways, Where the Eagles fly free!!
 
User avatar
PipoA380
Posts: 1537
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 1:36 am

RE: New To Aviation Photography

Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:54 pm

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 9):
have a 10D for sale with a bettery grip and a 28-90mm usm lens in mint condition

I bought a 10D this summer, second hand, and very happy about it!!

Quoting B757300 (Reply 2):
However, I do not recommend the Canon 75-300mm IS lens

I use that lens and I'm really surprised at the result of it. It is an excellent lens! Except in bad weather...
It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests