sean377
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How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:41 am

I think it's about time I introduced a serious backing up procedure. What medium is best for long time storage? Are their any differences between CD and DVD (apart from capacity) when it comes to longetivity? If I shoot RAW+jpeg, should I keep both files or just the RAW?

I know there are many answers to this, but I'm curious as to the different methods people are using before deciding which route to adopt.

Thanks
Sean

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flyfisher1976
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:44 am

Both CD's and DVD's have a limited lifespan and are not reccomended for long-term backup of important material. External hard-drives and tape drives are still trusted and reccomended over the latter for long-term storage.

Definetly keep the raw file! You can always make a jpeg from it.

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:47 am

I back them up to a external HD, and thinking about buying a second one for 'out of house', so even in the worst conditions (fire, burglary) I still have my shots.
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:57 am

Backed up to my fileserver and to a mates fileserver and to dvd-rw.. good redundancy  Smile
 
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting Christhurtell (Reply 3):
Backed up to my fileserver and to a mates fileserver and to dvd-rw.. good redundancy

Yep I get nervous sometimes, so mine get backed up to 2 or 3 places. Better to be safe than sorry.
 
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:28 am

I do wildlife photography as well as a lot of other stuff. First thing I do is download all my shots then back them up onto DVD's, although I accept that this is not a good long term solution. I plan to get a second external HDD sometime soon. I shoot mostly RAW as I believe that one day the computers and software will be able to process these files much quicker. Recently I added a second 200G internal HDD to my PC but that is filling up fast. I haven't thought about tapes, may look into that too. To put it simply, the more you back your photos up, i.e. Tapes, External HDD's, DVD's etc. the better!

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viv
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:17 pm

On an external hard disk drive.
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:22 pm

Over here in the States, Best Buy has 400 GB IDE drives for $200 USD. I'm thinking about grabbing one of those and using it for RAW storage...

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:28 pm

I download my shots to my laptop while on the road if a trip, or straight to my pc if only a days shooting. Once downloaded i copy them onto my external HDD and i burn two DVD's. Then every month or so i retrieve my second HDD from my parents safe and transfer the months files onto that and put it back in the safe along with one of the dvd's. This gives me four seperate copies of the files that are not on my pc.

I also make sure that as i process and work on files i do a rolling update and back up to my external HDD and a dvd.

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:13 pm

I have a 160 External HD that I back up to. When it gets full it will go to my parents house.
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:33 am

Relying on external HDD's is putting alot of faith in the technology. Considering the size of files you can get when shooting raw, DVD / CD can be the most cost efficient option. I'd rather have the risk of some DVDR's failing, than lose the whole lot in a single HD failure

Been around Disk drives too long - even high performance arrays - to trust the bloody things.


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sean377
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting Sulman (Reply 10):
Relying on external HDD's is putting alot of faith in the technology.

Yeah, I must admit I was quite surprised by the number of people using HDD's for archival back up (nearly everyone who's replied). I'd never even considered that an option, for what reason I'm not certain. But I've seen a few failures over the years too (I've yet to have a duff CD - not used DVD yet).
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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:46 am

As mentioned before...

I do have all RAW files - original and unworked - on my PC, burned on CD's and stored on an external HD.

Of all the photos I edited, worked with and put online at any time, I burn another series of CD's, but not RAW files rather TIF's. Like this I have them ready if somebody needs them.

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:49 pm

Good question and a good forum !
At this moment I am saving everything to DVD. I know it is not for lifetime.

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 1):
External hard-drives and tape drives are still trusted and reccomended over the latter for long-term storage

Is a very good idea for me ! But what if the drive "crashes" ?
Although I still think it's safer than DVD/CD.

How much Gigabytes are you using ? I am thinking at least 400GB.
But the are expensive. Maybe you can buy cheap ones but I think the more money the better the drive !?

Also want to store processed videos on it (DVD quality)

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:14 pm

Quoting Martin21 (Reply 13):
How much Gigabytes are you using ? I am thinking at least 400GB.

Wow...  Wow! That's a lot. I've been shooting digital for about 3 years now and I've accumulated about 60-80Gb of photos on a 200Gb external disk, but it doesn't grow super fast. A typical visit to the airport results in about 20-70 photos, of which many get deleted when I get home (doubles of planes I have better shots of, blurry shots, boring shots, etc.).
My best shots are doubled on the internal drive of my computer, so they're safe.

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RE: How Do You Store Your Digital Negatives?

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:04 am

Maxtor 160 GB external HDD. That was a good purchase. And that doubled by CDs.
I had the option to get a 200 GB version though....  scratchchin 

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