TV840
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Advice Wanted

Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:31 am

Hi,

I just got these two rejections:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/20060215_DSC_2996.jpg
Rejected for motive

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/20060215_DSC_3007.jpg
Rejected for angle, but to me the plane seems to be level

Some advice would be really appreciated!

Thanks,

Maxim
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SoBe
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RE: Advice Wanted

Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:50 am

Hi Maxim,

The first one does nothing for me. What am I looking at? The rear of an engine or a satellite? You could have shown how clean and polished everything is and shown more aircraft by shooting from a rear quarter and not nearly as tight.

The second one is not level. There are many different horizontals and verticals in this shot but I would use the sign beneath the plane or the tail support on the plane to level it. I'm not a big fan of these side-on shots as my eye is constantly drawn to the wingtip but that is a personal preference.

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Mike
 
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RE: Advice Wanted

Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:03 am

I agree, but the second I would level on the vertical support above the plane. This one is in the middle so it doesn't suffer (as much) from distortion.
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TV840
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RE: Advice Wanted

Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:20 am

Thanks for your replies!

I had a go on the second photo, and this is the result:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC_3007.jpg

Does it look level now?
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timdegroot
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RE: Advice Wanted

Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:47 am

The first one is a case of a badcrop in my opinion. Either crop more closely really take us into the engine or crop wider to include the airbrakes as well (although in that case you might risk motive again)

Second one still need substantial cw rotation. In these wideangle shots the verticals in the middle of the frame should be level (unless there was cropping on either side).

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TV840
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:29 am

Sorry for my late reply.

Tim, thanks for your advice! Can you please tell me what's the best crop?
Or should I crop a bit wider?

http://photobucket.com/albums/e63/Ostboy/

The second photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC3007.jpg

Maxim
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:45 am

In my opinion the 2nd of the two F-16 jetpipe shots is better.

The other photo still needs cw rotation. For this one I would follow JRadier's advice.
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:51 am

Maxim,
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one :


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Maybe, as Tim said, it's a matter of cropping....

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TV840
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting LIPH (Reply 7):
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one

Maybe this one was accepted because of the lighting and structure of the engine. This one is way better than my shot (that's just my opinion)!  Smile

Regards

Maxim
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flyfisher1976
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:39 am

Quoting SoBe (Reply 1):
The first one does nothing for me. What am I looking at? The rear of an engine or a satellite?

I think it's a great shot, I knew exactly what I was looking at as soon as I viewed it. Maybe a slightly different crop will do it some good.

Quoting LIPH (Reply 7):
Maxim,
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one :

Look who's involved all of a sudden...strange...
 
TV840
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Maybe a slightly different crop will do it some good.

What do you mean by "a slight different crop"? Can you explain it more specific please?

PS: I don't know, but would it be possible to hear johan his opinion?

Maxim
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RE: Advice Wanted

Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Look who's involved all of a sudden...strange...

Some wrong ?

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