Stealthz
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Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:23 am

I have noticed after reading many posts over a considerable period of time, a tendency for some contributors to upload many more photos than they expect accepted and then over the next week or so go back and delete some from the queue.
This does not seem (IMHO) all that fair to others. It adds to the queue size, places unfair load on the screening team.

Do your self screening on your own PC, there are also other venues to host your work if you want opinions, I don't beleive the screening queue is the place for that.

Cheers

Chris
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martin21
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:31 am

I noticed the same but I think if people pull it back before it gets screened it's no big deal. But I have to say that the best way is to upload them on an own webpage and just post the link in the thread.

Martin21
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waketurbulence
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:46 am

How does it place unfair loads on the screeners? If it is deleted from the queue then it isn't screened, hence no time wasted by the staff (unless you wait to long to pull it). I do this "unfair process" all the time. I have worked hard to have a decent acceptance ratio, and feel it is my right to do this with my upload slots if I please. I upload my shots, take a look at them a couple times a day, and if I don't like them upon further review, I will pull them. I do not see any harm in that. Plus I like to share with friends how a watermark looks and it is easy to link these photos in the photog forum or over instant messanger. I have a queue of 30 or 40 and only use about half of that (and then delete some more from there), that is self-screening.
-Matt
 
edoca
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:28 am

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 2):
How does it place unfair loads on the screeners? If it is deleted from the queue then it isn't screened, hence no time wasted by the staff (unless you wait to long to pull it). I do this "unfair process" all the time. I have worked hard to have a decent acceptance ratio, and feel it is my right to do this with my upload slots if I please. I upload my shots, take a look at them a couple times a day, and if I don't like them upon further review, I will pull them. I do not see any harm in that.

 checkmark  Fully agree! There's nothing unfair about that in my book...
 
dc10tim
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:46 am

I appreciate what you're saying Chris, I'm surprised at the number of people who don't self-screen and leave shots in the queue to chance in the hope they'll make it.

I do agree however with what the others have said, in that as long as the "unwanted" shots are pulled before they come to screening, then no screener's time is wasted. On occasions I've put a couple of edits of the same shot in the queue and asked people's advise before deleting one, which doesn't really hurt anyone.

I suppose to an extent it comes with experience. What does pain me is people asking in the forum for advise and then completely ignoring it when not getting the response they want and leaving their shots in the queue to be rejected regardless. Why bother posting? The people who participate in this forum are more than qualified to pick out the flaws and tell uploaders whether their shots will be accepted or not.

Regards,

Tim.
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Stealthz
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:57 am

I guess I kind of agree with all of the responses to a certain degree..perhaps Tim's more so!

If and it is a big IF the extra photos are deleted prior to screening there is no real wastage of screeners time but the size of the queue does put some pressure on screeners most often from members of this forum!

Cheers

Chris
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phxplanes
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:28 pm

If you want to preview a picture submit to myaviation.net first. It only takes a day or two to get in the database and it is in the same format so you can see exactly what it will look like on a.net.
 
Newark777
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:01 pm

Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 6):
If you want to preview a picture submit to myaviation.net first. It only takes a day or two to get in the database and it is in the same format so you can see exactly what it will look like on a.net.

But again, with this you "reserve" your spot in the queue, and there is no issue as long as you pull the bad ones if they won't make it.

Harry
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JohnJ
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:05 pm

I do this on rare occasion and usually can't see the harm in it - in the past I've always deleted the shots I don't want to have screened before they hit the screeners. I assume you're using my "Spirit of Delta" post today as the source of your message and this was an unusual circumstance - I had four shots in queue as I expected the screening to take 10 days or more. I put a post here about priority screening, which resulted in the shots being screened immediately. This was not the result I expected from my post (but appreciated). In this instance I did put more workload on the screeners... however, there is a penalty for such action in that my acceptance ratio got 3 rejects marked against it. So, to that end I was punished for my admitted misdeed.
 
Stealthz
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:57 pm

JohnJ,

I actually saw your "Spirit of Delta" thread after I posted this. The issue, if it is one, has occured to me several times.
In fact after I read your thread I intended to post that I was NOT specifically referring to you!

Cheers

Chris
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JohnJ
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RE: Queue Stacking & Self Screening

Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:40 am

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 9):
The issue, if it is one, has occured to me several times.
In fact after I read your thread I intended to post that I was NOT specifically referring to you!

I was feeling sheepish after being caught with my proverbial pants down with my "Spirit of Delta" uploads, so I was on the defensive and assumed you meant my post. Sorry for jumping to that conclusion. However, my point still stands, which is that there are penalties for doing this if you're not careful. In my case I got 3 rejects against my acceptance ratio, and I would assume there are more severe penalties for serious abusers of uploading multiple doubles.

In any event, this is an interesting discussion point.

Regards,

John

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