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Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:13 am

Hi guys

I've posted here a couple of times before about some shots I took in rather unfavourable weather, none of which have been accepted. The advice I received from all you kind sirs tended to focus on finding some good weather. Today I had the good fortune of some breaks of sun at BRS and here's the result:















Sorry for the long list! Would love to know if maybe one of these makes the grade...

Cheers

Tom

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:23 am

Hi Tom.

Sorry to be the bearer of unfavourable feedback, but I would have to say that none of these are going to meet A.net's exacting standards.

There are quality issues with all the shots, which makes me think that this may have something to do with the equipment you are using. Also, I note from the files that they have been filtered. Was this to deal with grain in the original files? In fact this may not be helping your cause with overall quality.

I would be interested to know what camera you are using and how you have edited the shots. If you want any help with another edit please do let me know.

All the best.

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:27 am

Any feedback is good feedback! I'm rather limited equipment-wise - I'm using a Fuji Finepix S5500; really a glorified point-and-shoot.
 
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:36 am

Tom - that makes sense. I feel that you can often tell when a shot is not taken with a DSLR, as generally there is a quality difference.

However, there will be plently of people who will be able to point out photos successfully uploaded with non-DSLR cameras, so don't give up hope. My initial feeling is that the closer you are able to get to your subject, the better, as the lens quality issues will become increasingly apparent the longer the focal length.

If you want to see another edit of an original let me know.

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:49 am

Next to the quality, I personally find it difficult to get shots accepted that show only (say) half of an aircraft. It seems to me the preference is for close-ups, or full aircraft fuselages (wings may be cropped under some angles), but not half planes, although I personally find these shots quite nice.

I do believe some of these pics have potential though, with just some extra tweaking perhaps. Drop me a line through the contact info in my profile if you want me to give it a try? Especially the first Easyjet and the SN could be good candidates, as I really only see some noise in the sky at first sight.

Good luck anyway!
 
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:15 am

Quoting ZSOFN (Thread starter):
Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

So am I, guess I will kepp trying though.
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:33 am

Thanks guys.

Edoca, I'll be in touch

I used NeatImage on some of those images, but, wary of the common problems associated with it, toned down the settings somewhat. A lot of the shots were taken on ISO64 which is a nice feature for a cheap camera, but some areas are still noisy nevertheless.

One more I found; is this any good? (I know it needs a little CW rotation)



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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:14 pm

And this one? I feel this could be the best out of a bad bunch. Sorry to bump...

 
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:23 pm

Aviation photography is like trying to solve a multi-variable equation. Try to starting out with sunny day, static or still subject, and little or no telephoto. If you don't have access to a general aviation airport, try an aviation museum. Once you get comfortable with the quality of those images, you can progress to panning, zooming to telephoto, while balancing f stop and shutter speed.

I caveat all of this as my suggestion for getting your images accepted on Airliners.net. It is not meant to keep you from expanding your personal collection of aviation photography. What I have uploaded here is a small percentage of the images I enjoy in my collection. Don't underestimate your equipment. I use an Olympus C750 for a lot of my photography, especially when the Canon is too cumbersome to carry. I just recognize the limitations my point and shoot camera has.

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:04 pm

Thanks for that Gary. I won't argue for a second that I'm an experienced photographer - I've only really been trying since last summer However if you were to see the originals of some of these shots you'll see how much is down to photoshop and just how little I have to work with. One day I'll find the money for a decent DSLR...

EDIT: Any feedback specifically relating to those last two would be appreciated, not that the more general comments aren't!

[Edited 2006-03-01 12:14:48]
 
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:38 pm

The Easyjet in reply 6 has some noise in the sky. Just set the eraser tool to a low-strength setting and run over the clouds with it (but try to stay away from the cloud edges). I also see jaggies on the cockpit windows and the wing trailing edges, especially the notorious narrow gap between the wing and the flap. These are easily fixable problems and it seems to me you're close with this one.

The one in reply 7 looks to me like it needs some CCW rotation (but not to the point where the runway is level -- that would be going too far) and the halos round the fuselage titles might or might not do you in. But I'd still say it's worth a try.
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:47 pm

Thanks for the help there  Smile I would very much like to get the shot in reply 6 accepted if possible...

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:41 pm

Hi,
IMHO the shot in reply 6 is way to dark on the bottom of the fuselage. However I see potential in all of your shots. I believe that you might actually have a chance with the BAe 146 RJ if with any. If you'd like to send me the original I'd have a go at it, no promises though. Contact me via my profile.

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 pm

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 12):
IMHO the shot in reply 6 is way to dark on the bottom of the fuselage.

Thanks Sebastian. Fortunately that's most likely a result of me increasing the contrast too much - I believe the original isn't too dark on the underbelly. I'll send it to you tonight when I get home. Thanks very much for all your help you wonderful people!
 
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:25 am

Sorry to bring this back up AGAIN, but here's the level best I can do; spent about half an hour on each photo:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1586/dscf4683b4lx.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5648/dscf4654b6dg.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7945/dscf4550b9fg.jpg
 
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:56 am

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I got my first shot accepted!


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However, I got a couple of rejections, just wondering if there's anything I can do with them...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20060309_DSCF4683b.jpg

^ Rejected for compression & "blotchy" sky.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20060309_DSCF4654b.jpg

^ Dark.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20060309_DSCF4513c.jpg

^ Compression & category (I guess that's because it's a special scheme and I didn't note it as such?)

Can I salvage any of these or just be happy with the one success for now?  Wink
 
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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:15 am

Hello! Nice shots! I think there is not too much to do excepting in the BAE, you can try removing the jaggies on the tail... Try retouching also the levels a bit... it looks a little "bad contrast"...  Smile

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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:17 am

You're finishing the images to a pretty good standard - if you learn to clean up the noisier ones, you should get plenty on.

Cheers


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RE: Looking To Get My First Shot Up Here...

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:30 am

Thanks for the help guys. When I get back home I'll rework a couple of those...

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