kaputt
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Spotting At IAD

Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:52 am

Good evening. I will be up in the DC area this coming weekend and will be spotting at DCA, IAD, and BWI. I know about all of the places to spot at DCA and a BWI, but for IAD the only place I know of is the parking lot of the Udvar-Hazy Center. So, I was wondering what are some other areas to spot from at IAD. Thanks in advance.

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Lindy
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:12 pm

Hey Dave,

Send me an email via contact link and I will send you all the info you will ever need for spotting at IAD.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:19 am

Hey,

I live about 15 minutes away from IAD and know of a few good spots.

1) on top of Daily Garage 2 - good view of the International Arrivals terminal, rwy 19R/1L
2) in the Signature Flight Support parking lot (view of 19L/1R) - take the East Service road exit (from the main access road), the building is on the left
3) take the west service road exit (from the access road), at the second traffic light turn right, follow that road and go to the stop sign directly in front of the Washington Flyer (taxi) building, turn left and go the end of the road (you'll see the old Independence Air building on the left) - this spot offers a great view of final app for 19R

I've been questioned by the police once when I was at spot #3. Someone had called them and reported suspicous activity (it was a cold day, so I was getting into and out of my car - also had my scanner - guess it could be suspicous to some people), police asked to see my pics, and then just asked me to leave for the day, no big deal. Airport Ops doesn't really like people going to #3, but I've been there over a dozen times and have only been stopped once.

Have fun, it's supposed to be real nice this weekend, 60's and 70's - spring is coming!!

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:23 am

I may be at DCA or BWI this sunday depending on the winds, so I'll look for you guys.

Kevin
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:44 am

Thanks for the help guys.
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:58 am

No prob, there's also a real good spot at DCA you might not know about. If you're driving north on the George Washington Parkway (turns into Washington street in Old Town), on the right hand side there's a restaurant called "Potowmac Landing." You'll see signs for it before the turn off; pull into the parking lot and walk towards the grassy area near the back side of the restaurant (behind the deck). If the tower is using the Mount Vernon Visual, you can get some good shots of the planes landing on RWY 1. Otherwise, if the river visual approach is being conducted with planes landing on RWY 19 and Gravelly Point will get you the best shots.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Kmonroe (Reply 2):
2) in the Signature Flight Support parking lot (view of 19L/1R) - take the East Service road exit (from the main access road), the building is on the left



Quoting Kmonroe (Reply 2):
3) take the west service road exit (from the access road), at the second traffic light turn right, follow that road and go to the stop sign directly in front of the Washington Flyer (taxi) building, turn left and go the end of the road (you'll see the old Independence Air building on the left) - this spot offers a great view of final app for 19R

Hi Keith,

I wouldn't recommend going to those two places for longer period of time. If you see something parked at Signature ramp or at the begining of runway 19R just take picture and move on.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting Kmonroe (Reply 2):
Airport Ops doesn't really like people going to #3, but I've been there over a dozen times and have only been stopped once.

I'm sorry, but this just about sums up the kind of attitude that spoils it for the rest. If you know Ops don't want you to go there, why hang out there. Rafal and the others have worked hard with the authorities to get them to accept spotters and photographers, why hang out where you are not welcome. If I go to IAD, I go the parking garage, call ops and let them know I'm there. That's the way ops and the police want it, why screw it up for the rest of us by just ignoring their wishes? At least if you are going to go there, adopt Rafal's policy of shoot and run.
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:46 am

I have a small Dulles spotting page on my website here. The information is a little dated, as I haven't been around Dulles since 2002, so things have changed slightly. Rafal can give you the best info.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:17 am

Quote:

I'm sorry, but this just about sums up the kind of attitude that spoils it for the rest. If you know Ops don't want you to go there, why hang out there. Rafal and the others have worked hard with the authorities to get them to accept spotters and photographers, why hang out where you are not welcome. If I go to IAD, I go the parking garage, call ops and let them know I'm there. That's the way ops and the police want it, why screw it up for the rest of us by just ignoring their wishes? At least if you are going to go there, adopt Rafal's policy of shoot and run.

Before you tell me I'm spoiling it for the rest, know the facts. I've called Airport Ops before and they've allowed me to stay at spot #3. The day the police pulled up, I called airport operations and they said it was OK for me to be there. The officer just wanted me to leave so the person who called wouldn't feel uneasy about me being there. It is sometimes hit or miss though, it really depends on who answers the phone as to whether or not they'll allow you to shoot there.

-Keith
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:28 am

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I wouldn't recommend going to those two places for longer period of time. If you see something parked at Signature ramp or at the begining of runway 19R just take picture and move on.

I've actually never taken pictures in the Signature parking lot before. The fence is too high to get any good pictures of planes on the ramp, and now with the construction of the new hanger going on behind 19R it's hard to get a decent picture of the German AF planes that come and go. The only good time to go to Signature is when they're departing 1R.

If you know of any other spots at Dulles, Rafal, let me know. I'd definitely like to try out some new locations. I know of the spot off Route 28 near Guard House #4, but didn't know how to give directions to it.
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:17 am

Hi All - I didn't post my pictures here for hits. You don't have to click on thumbnail for larger view. I posted them to give you idea about IAD shooting.

Quoting Kmonroe (Reply 9):
Before you tell me I'm spoiling it for the rest, know the facts. I've called Airport Ops before and they've allowed me to stay at spot #3. The day the police pulled up, I called airport operations and they said it was OK for me to be there. The officer just wanted me to leave so the person who called wouldn't feel uneasy about me being there.

Keith,

Officer wanted you to move because somebody has called you in (probably cab driver). If they will get more calls like that we may loose that spot permanently.

This shot was taken from that location #3.

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To take this picture I had to stand on the roof of my car. I took the picture and drove away. Anyway, that spot is only good in the morning. And even with Southern winds IAD tower likes to use runway 1L/R for arrivals in the morning and runway 30 for departures. So in the morning top of the parking garage number 2 is much better because airplanes rotate in front of you and you are above them.
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Here are some shots taken in the morning from parking garage. As you can see, you can't get this kind of shots from spot #3.

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Regarding Signature prking lot. That place is not good for departures from 1R. Unless you like belly shots. You are too close to runway and airplanes are high. You may consider top of parking garage number 1. From there you are on the same level as departing airplanes.


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Here are pictures taken from Signature parking lot (departures 1R)

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Here are pictures from Signature lot (thru the fence + shoot and run)

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And here are shots of arrivals on runway 19L from parking garage number 1.

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Now you have some idea about best spots around IAD.

Send me an email (using contact link in my profile) and I'll be glad to send you detailed info with map for IAD.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting GOCAPS16 (Reply 3):
I may be at DCA or BWI this sunday depending on the winds, so I'll look for you guys.

Kevin

Hey Kevin,

I might be picknicking with a friend at Gravelly Point on Sunday, so if I do end up going, I'll keep an eye out for you....winds are showing WSW right now, so they should be flying into 19. Weather looks awesome too!  Smile

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:55 am

Hey Rafal,

Nice shot of the grey VC-10. I've never actually seen one in those colors before!

Mark
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:03 am

Quote:

Officer wanted you to move because somebody has called you in (probably cab driver). If they will get more calls like that we may loose that spot permanently.

Yeah, I'm definitely going to be more careful. I haven't been to that spot since the incident. I'd like to go to ops in person to get a letter stating I'm allowed to be there in case something like that ever happens again. And those shots are amazing, they've given me a lot of inspiration!

-Keith
 
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RE: Spotting At IAD

Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting Jran225 (Reply 12):
I might be picknicking with a friend at Gravelly Point on Sunday, so if I do end up going, I'll keep an eye out for you....winds are showing WSW right now, so they should be flying into 19. Weather looks awesome too!

Yea, the weather is gonna be sweet this weekend. I'm driving up Saturday morning and get to DC in the afternoon. I'll probably be with my dad at Gravelly on Sunday afternoon.

Rafal, sweet shots. I may have to check out the Parking garage 1 on Saturday afternoon at Dulles. Haven't done any shooting at Dulles since my flight from IAD-LAX few months ago.

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RE: Spotting At IAD

Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:59 am

If the weather is nice on Sunday I'll should be at DCA around 1pm.

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