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What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:17 am

Right now I am using a Canon IXUS 50 which I am selling. I am after a camera which has consistant quality evan when zoom is used. I have a bugdet of around 250GBP. Which camera can you guys recomend to me? Please bear in mind I am oly 16 and still at school!

Your help would be apreciated. Thanks, Bradley
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:23 am

Quoting BradWray (Thread starter):
I have a bugdet of around 250GBP.

That's easy! D200!  biggrin 


I am of the opinion that if you are going to be in this hobby for the long haul and you should just get a DSLR. In the long run it will be better than buying a point and shoot and then a DSLR. Save a little more money and you can get a D50 which takes great pics and gives you much more versatility. Then you can save for zooms and such.
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:35 am

Thanks for the reply NIKV69!
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting BradWray (Reply 2):
Thanks for the reply NIKV69!

No problem!

Did a search on yahoo and the D50 is in the $700US price range. A little more with the kit. I don't believe in buying used equipment so I would save up some more money and try to get a DSLR in that range. You will be able to learn all the functions of the camera and how to take good pics. Then save up more and get the 200 or 300 zoom and your ready for the big time!  camera 

Good Luck and keep us posted!
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:25 pm

If you're going for DSLR, you probably have enough money to go in on a used Canon D30 or D60, but remember you will have to buy lenses, and that can get expensive.

The other option is a point and shoot with fully manual as an option and a good zoom, I'd suggest something in the Olympus Camedia line, the C740Z and C750Z I've heard great things about, and both can put out some nice images. Olympus doesn't produce them anymore, you'll find them on e-bay as well.
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:55 pm

Hi BradWray,

I am also 16 and I have the D50 and using it with the Nikkor 70-300mm G.
In Germany, Austria and Szitzerland you can get the D50 Body a bit more than 500€ and the Lense for just 175€.
They are both good value for money ...

If your in the UK check out Amazon.

Here is a screenshot I which I made with my D50 and the Nikkor lense at VIE ...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/20060303_OE-LAT-2.jpg

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:23 pm

Quoting LukasMako (Reply 5):


I am also 16 and I have the D50 and using it with the Nikkor 70-300mm G.

Great advice, that is a goood combo to start out with. Not too expensive and perfect for starting out.
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budg

Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:06 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
Great advice, that is a goood combo to start out with. Not too expensive and perfect for starting out.



Quoting BradWray (Thread starter):
I have a bugdet of around 250GBP.

The cheapest D50 kit in the UK is over 420GBP, if you go for a body and 70-300 you are looking at nearly 500GBP - twice budget, and that's without memory cards and all of the other peripherals that suddenly become essential.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 4):
The other option is a point and shoot with fully manual as an option and a good zoom, I'd suggest something in the Olympus Camedia line, the C740Z and C750Z I've heard great things about, and both can put out some nice images. Olympus doesn't produce them anymore, you'll find them on e-bay as well.

No, but they do now make a 6mp, 10x optical zoom point and shoot for just over 200GBP.

I started out in digital with a C750UZ, the first 400 or so of my pictures on here were taken with it, before deciding that I had been bitten once again by the photography bug. Only then did I decide that I could justify the expense of a DSLR. I still love the Olympus - I was always have it with me when I'm out on my bike and can't carry the big kit around and it's the one I take on holiday. It also taught me the basics of photography to the point that I felt confident enough to move on.

For someone at school and on a budget I would think a point and shoot the better route to take. Who know's what you'll want to do when you leave school - females may turn out to be far more fun than airplanes

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:31 pm

I'm currently using the Fujifilm Finepix S5500, which is a good camera.

I am saving up for a Canon EOS350D and a lens kit which is £599 and I am only a few hundred off getting it. Big grin

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:22 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 8):
I am saving up for a Canon EOS350D and a lens kit which is £599 and I am only a few hundred off getting it.

 checkmark 

Quoting Willo (Reply 7):
females may turn out to be far more fun than airplanes

They are fun but not as good an investment as a DSLR and good lens! footinmouth 
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:00 pm

https://secure.hitech-uk.com/acatalog/Canon_Powershot_S2_IS.html
(won't link because it's https, by the looks of it. You'll have to copy and paste)

Can/would anyone recommend the Canon Powershot S2-IS?

Features
- 12x optical zoom
Focal Length 6.0-72.0mm (35mm film equivalent: 36-432mm)
- Optical Image Stabiliser
- Ultra Sonic Motor
- 5.0 Megapixels
- Extensive movie functions
- DIGIC II, iSAPS, FlexiZone AF/AE, USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
- 18 shooting modes, with My Colors
- Range of accessories
- 1.8" vari-angle LCD
- PictBridge compatible


All for £309 at digitaldepot.co.uk. Not too far above your budget. Any birthdays on the horizon??

Lens and MP wise it looks like all you need. And it has image stabilisation

On top of this you'll need memory cards, batteries, etc, etc.

Review here

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/s2is.html


Alternatively, the Sony Cybershot H1, referred to in the above review is £289 at Digitaldepot.co.uk

https://secure.hitech-uk.com/acatalog/Sony_DSC_H1.html




edit : added review
edit : added cybershot ref

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:10 pm

Hi Bradley,

Hope you're well, how did the trip to MAN go for you? Hope my directions didnt get you lost?

Anyway, I have a friend who has the S2 IS and it produces great images for the price. If you can get the £450 odd go for the Nikon D50 with the kit lens. Remember that the 55mm on the kit lens will get you nice side ons at MAN! then you can save for a decent telezoom. If money is an issue, then aim for the Canon S2 IS. Great camera for the money. I had the Minolta Dimage Z2 before I got my 350D and it was a good camera. The newer versions of this, the Z5/Z6 are worth a look too. Hope this helps

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:58 pm

It should be no problem to get a used Canon 300d with standard lens and 55-200 or 70-300mm for about 500 euro.

I also saw some used d30 for 350 euro with lens.

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:51 pm

I found my way to the viewpoint Linco thx a lot.

I have been looking on ebay and I come across this 300D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CANON-EOS-300D...categoryZ31388QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I was thinking that if I sell my IXUS 50 on ebay as they are going for around 120GBP, I then draw the extra 230 or so out of the bank I am still kind of within my budget but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Thanks for all of your replys guys keep them coming  Smile
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:56 pm

PnS cameras : Canon S2 IS, Panasonic FZ series....
D-SLR : D50, D70s, D200, 20D, 350D
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
what do you guys think about that 300D?

Its a great entry level DSLR, if you can stretch your budget, go for it!
 
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:26 am

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
I was thinking that if I sell my IXUS 50 on ebay as they are going for around 120GBP, I then draw the extra 230 or so out of the bank I am still kind of within my budget but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Great camera, just don't count on the price on ebay being £350 in another 4 hours....
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 10):
Can/would anyone recommend the Canon Powershot S2-IS?

I switched to a S2 IS last October and my acceptance rate here at airliners.net has risen from 25-30% to 64% and its still rising. I personally like the S2 IS because it is very compact and light, unlike DSLRs. I carry it in a fanny pack, with spare batteries and memory cards. The S2 IS is great for shooting "portraits", but I am still working on mastering shooting action shots. It produces sharp, well exposed images with very little noise. The flip-out LCD screen is very handy for shooting over fences.

BradWray has about $436 to work with. Checking Google Froogle, I find that you can probably buy a S2 IS for this amount of money.
 
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:58 am

The S2 IS has been recomended to me on numerous occasions since I posted this forum and it is one of the options I am realy considering. I recently had a great email of Jim Groom who used the S2 IS-thanks a lot for that email Jim!

So are D-SLR's not needed for good zoom and consistant quality? Thanks guys keep posting!

Take care, Bradley!
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:22 am

Buying a used EOS 300D on ebay is not as easy as it seems.

The fact that ebay is only for 18+ year olds is the first problem.
And the second one is that it sells very good even if the price of the article looks quite good it will increases extremley especially in the last hours, minutes and seconds ...

I tried it and the difference between used and new was not big enough for me to convince me to buy used.

Especially not Canon as I have bad expiriences with the quality of other products from them.

Well with Canon you can't ...   

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:01 am

I use my farthers ebay account  Smile I have made some purchases off ebay that when I look back I think why did I pay that much for that pice of ---- so I am not sure about ebay. My uncle (Robert Lyons) who also is a member of A.net has a number of cameras so I will see what he has and see if he is selling any but please do keep posting people- There is no such thing as a bad idea  Smile
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:36 am

The S2 IS's price is gradually dropping because of the announcment of the S3 IS. If you're really interested in the S2 IS, wait a little bit longer and you'll get a great deal on it.

However, I used to be in the same shoes as you. Everyone was telling me to save my money for a bit longer, and get a DSLR. I eventually did that, and do not regret that decision. I love my setup now.

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:54 am

250 GBP can get you a nice film SLR (esp. when going used equipment) and a decent lens... great to learn the basics so you can step up to other equipment later on.

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:33 am

Well there she goes... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Thanks for the posts people, please do keep them coming!

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Still using a 300D, excellent camera if you don't need 8fps and can shoot at low ISO.

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:58 am

Quoting BradWray (Reply 18):
So are D-SLR's not needed for good zoom and consistant quality?

A DSLR will give you better rendition of detail, fewer processing artifacts, much less of a headache with noise, more consistently accurate autofocus and exposure, usable burst mode (multiple shots), usable high-ISO settings, and the ability to zoom in and out without taking your finger off the shutter button. Which all boils down to fewer missed shots and a lot more keepers.

If you're serious about photography and you can scrimp and save your way to a DSLR, do so. But if not, go ahead and get something like a Canon S2 and you'll still enjoy yourself and learn a lot.
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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:12 am

Quoting GVerbeeck (Reply 22):
250 GBP can get you a nice film SLR (esp. when going used equipment) and a decent lens... great to learn the basics so you can step up to other equipment later on.

I would highly suggest this route. There are just too many people (not specifically here at Anet, just in general) shooting DSLR's that don't know what f/stop and shutter speeds do and how they relate to each other or other basics. Sure, you can learn the basics of photography with a DSLR/digital but it just seems a lot of people "skip the basics" because it's so easy to do with a DSLR/digital. There's nothing like shooting a whole roll of slides/film, waiting for them to be processed and it turns out you fudged the exposure on every shot. You quickly learn to understand exposure after a few of those episodes  Smile

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RE: What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)

Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:36 am

Thank you all for your replies and please do keep them coming!

After reading some of the messages in the post I feel i should just go for a good digital point & shoot, like the S2 IS or a LUMIX. If I do take this option what ones would you recommend?

Thanks, Bradley!
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