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Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:55 pm

Hi,

I got below photo rejected for being badly centered:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...060306_AeroGal732RCCUR30OCT05E.jpg

I thaught of taking more aircraft photos from different angles, hence this photo, but I don't see how to fix this photo. The aircraft looks pretty well centered to me, but maybe the viewer/readers here see some things I don't. So, any help from anybody to improve this photo?

Many thanks in advance for your help/tips. I would really like to see this photo in the database so I can find some help here...

Regards,

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:00 pm

Hi Roger,

I think it will be better if the plane could be moved a bit lower in the frame, because I feel the space above the tail is too much less than the room below the wheel.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:21 pm

Roger, I happen to feel its aesthetically pleasing the way you have it. The fuselage is fairly centered.

However, going by the numbers, you just want to lower the aircraft in the frame to make it acceptable to A.net I think. And, it'll still be a good shot, although somewhat different. In fact, many here will prefer the shot if you decide you want to lower the aircraft some in the frame.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:40 pm

Yeah the aircraft does need to be a bit lower in the frame there. Nice surroundings too.
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:19 pm

Thanks for the tips everybody. I have centered the aircraft a bit more. See link below:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/AeroGal732RCCUR30OCT05E2.jpg

I have also uploaded my following photos:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/AeroGal732RCCUR30OCT05F.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/9HATR42RCCUR30OCT05B.jpg

Please let me know your input/opinions about these photos as well and thank you for the help and tips.

Roger Big grin
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:00 pm

Hi Roger,

Nice shots!

The revised first shot looks better. However, I still feel it will be desirable if the plane could be put a little bit slower, further. And besides of that, I feel this shot might need slight CW rotation. I am not sure if the dimension of this shot could become another issue. I would like to suggest cropping it as 1024 x 683.

I think the plane in the second photo could be lower a little bit, too. and by the sea level afar I think the photo is leaning to right side - a slight CCW rotation might be needed.

I like the way you center the plane in the third photo. However, again by the sea level I could see it is leaning to right, too.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:07 pm

Hi Hongyin,

I will look at the photos again tomorrow because it's very late now and I have to work early tomorrow. Thank you for your input. I will post the edited photos tomorrow.

Regards from Curacao,

Roger  Smile
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:07 am

I have rotated the photos and have added two more photos. Please let me know any tips for corrections where needed. I couldn't get the 737 in the thread starter photo any lower as this would affect the photo size.

Here are my re-uploads:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/AeroGal732RCCUR30OCT05F2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/9HATR42RCCUR30OCT05B.jpg

New uploads:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/KL744Water241205A.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/RNAFF60RCCUR241205A.jpg

Thanks in advance for the tips.

Roger Big grin
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:21 am

Hi Roger,

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Thanks for the tips everybody. I have centered the aircraft a bit more. See link below:

You still need to lower the plane in the frame. See the lot of wasted space in showing the runway. Vertical centering requires you to include the tail also and not just the fuselage. See photo ...

http://www.vasanthdharmarajan.com/airliners/badcenter.JPG

You can recenter or crop it a bit more tight...like this



Oh BTW, nice pictures!!

Cheers!!
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:56 am

Thanks for the (graphic) tips Vas. This is my first experience with semi-head on photos. I have cropped and centered the photo like you said (see link below).

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/AeroGal732RCCUR30OCT05E3.jpg

Is this better?

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):
Is this better?

I feel it looks nice!  Smile

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 10):

I feel it looks nice!

_Hongyin_

Heey Hongyin, how are you doing? Nice seeing you back here. Let's hope the screeners will find these uploads nice for the database too.

Roger  Smile
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:05 am

You know Roger to me, putting aside getting the image accepted to A.net, I happen to like your original composition and 2nd attempt better.

The image now looks bottom heavy to me with the fuselage low in the frame, the dead space is to the upper left with the tail to the right, the tower is more distracting on the right and I prefer to see the full wings on this shot of a 737-200.

Nice shot anyways. Keep shooting.  Smile

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:14 am

What about this photo:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...g/ready/AsercaD93RCCUR16MAY05A.jpg

Any thoughts on this one?

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting TomTurner (Reply 12):
You know Roger to me, putting aside getting the image accepted to A.net, I happen to like your original composition and 2nd attempt better.

The image now looks bottom heavy to me with the fuselage low in the frame, the dead space is to the upper left with the tail to the right, the tower is more distracting on the right and I prefer to see the full wings on this shot of a 737-200.

Nice shot anyways. Keep shooting.

Tom

Hmmm you have a point there. This photo is difficult in my opinion but a nice photo angle at the same. The photo as I have it now shows the aircraft closer to the viewer compared to the other photo but than again I can see your point of the larger amount of dead space in the upper left of the photo.

What to do with this dilemma. Both photos have there good and bad things.

I'll wait and see what comes out of this before changing the photo again.

Thanks for all the tips and keep them coming so I can keep improving on my aircraft photography skills  Smile

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):
I have cropped and centered the photo like you said (see link below).

Looks great....

Quoting TomTurner (Reply 12):
The image now looks bottom heavy to me with the fuselage low in the frame,

True...but some screeners will reject it for no proper vertical centering... so play safe with the center rule...

here's one of mine in the queue with a similar vertical centered

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/aa_n753an_022606_DFW_333_1.jpg

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 15):
True...but some screeners will reject it for no proper vertical centering... so play safe with the center rule...

here's one of mine in the queue with a similar vertical centered

Nice photo Vas! I've also scrolled your photos in the database and I liked all of them. I think you like close-up shots  Smile The UPS MD11F photos with all the tire smoke is very nice and the Tradewinds A300 photo taken from a distance with the taxiway is very nice too! Big grin

I hope my photo is well centered for acceptance.

Roger

[Edited 2006-03-09 04:18:03]
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:19 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 13):
What about this photo:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...g/ready/AsercaD93RCCUR16MAY05A.jpg

Any thoughts on this one?

Hi Roger,

I don't think the one could be accepted. Sorry for my honesty! The heat haze has ruined this shot, and it looks too soft.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:24 pm

Hey Hongyin,

I was thinking the same of that photo. The heat haze was tough on me that day. That's why I wanted to know the opinions here. This forum has helped me a lot so far and I'm thankful for all the tips and help I get here. So once again, thanks to everybody here who have helped me and are still helping me to improve my photography skills Big grin

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 17):
I don't think the one could be accepted. Sorry for my honesty! The heat haze has ruined this shot, and it looks too soft.

I would agree. I think it's impossible to save... And these weather conditions are so typical for CUR, aren't they...

I agree with Tom Turner about the original AeroGal picture being nicely composed but your second version seems OK for acceptance here. Never seen that airline before, is it yet another Venezuela-Antilles connection?

Cheers
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:46 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 16):
I've also scrolled your photos in the database and I liked all of them.

Thank you  Smile

Quoting A388 (Reply 16):
I think you like close-up shots

Yeah...Up close and personal  Wink

Hopefully by this screening cycle, I should hit 100 pics on A.net ...whoo-hoo

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting Edoca (Reply 19):
Never seen that airline before, is it yet another Venezuela-Antilles connection?

Hey Edoca, wellcome back. AeroGal is a charter airline from Ecuador but I've read they are now focussing more on scheduled services. To CUR they only operate charter flights so far. It's a pity they don't use their 727 to CUR as they only have one of them. I would love to see a classic such as the 727 operating passenger flights to CUR. Luckily we still get 727 full freighters to CUR...  

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 20):
Hopefully by this screening cycle, I should hit 100 pics on A.net ...whoo-hoo

Good luck with your 100th photo in the database. I am sure you will get there very soon looking at the amount of your photos accepted in the database here in less than a year. It took me about 6 years to get my 81 photos accepted here. Yes, I'm a veteran here with few photos in the database. Luckily I see my acceptance ratio improve quite well the past half year thanks to all the photograpy tips I get here 

Hopefully by end this year I will reach the 100 as the number of aircraft movements here in CUR is still not much. Luckily there are a few airlines rumoured to be interested in flying to CUR over the coming year  so I hope I will have a camera again soon as my EOS300D is broke and fixing it seems to take two months to repair from CUR...  

I am planning to buy the EOS350D end of this months or end of next month as I can't afford anything more expensive the coming year. I had to cancel my planned vacation to Holland because of this! Me without a camera is just not possible. I wouldn't like it to go to AMS and not being able to photograph the aircraft there so I have to built everything up slowly but steadily  

Roger

[Edited 2006-03-09 05:28:21]
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:13 pm

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 20):
Hopefully by this screening cycle, I should hit 100 pics on A.net ...whoo-hoo

Vas,

You will benefit from that milestone - more upload slots!  Smile

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:14 am

Hello,

Here I am again with another upload:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/KL744NEWCLoseUpRCCUR210805F.jpg

Please let me know your opinions and thanks.

Roger  Smile
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 23):
Please let me know your opinions and thanks.

Nice shot, Roger! I do like some close-up photos.

I feel this shot might need slight CW rotations and it looks a little bit soft.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:07 am

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/ua777222/klkk.jpg

What do you think about something more like this? The poles in the back are hard to level off of as they will require .75-1.75CW if done off of those. Just a rough idea. I think there is too much dead space infront of the nose.

Best.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:39 am

Hi Roger,
Did you use neat image or any noise reduction software on the KLM? I might fear a quality rejection here  Sad

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:47 am

Heey Vas,

I don't have those programs, I only use Photo Shop version 2.0. I rotated the photo, levelled the photo and USM with settings:amount 500%, radius 0,2 pixels and threshold 0 levels. Any other settings that might be better for this photo?

Regards,

Roger
 
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Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:21 pm

300, 0.2, 2?

500 tends to be overkill, no?

Best.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 28):
I only use Photo Shop version 2.0

Do you mean CS2...? And check your PM...

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:41 am

Hello Roger.

I have been away from the Forum recently, so apologies for getting into this thread late. I am very interested in the debate about centering, so it was a shame I missed out on that!

I have to disagree with Matt about the USM settings - I find 500%, 0.2 very effective. But I would agree that this will be rejected for quality - it is simply not sharp, and there does appear to be a bit of compression.

Let me know if you would like another attempt at the edit of the original.

All the best.

Paul
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:33 pm

Thanks for all the tips everybody. I will get into your comments tomorrow as I have a bit of a headache now (tough week at work). In anyway, I have deleted the previous KL close-up photo and uploaded a new one from a slightly different angle. I think this new photo is also too soft but I am having difficulty in sharpening the photo more without the lettering becoming too jagged or oddly shaped. Any tips?

My new close-up photo is this one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/KL744NEWCLoseUpRCCUR210805G2.jpg

Regards and thanks for your help,

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:22 pm

Here I am again.

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 30):
Do you mean CS2...? And check your PM...

Hi Vas, what do you mean with checking my PM? As for the program I use, it's Adobe Photo Shop Elements version 2.0.

Quoting Psych (Reply 31):
Let me know if you would like another attempt at the edit of the original.

And hi Paul, it's been some time that I've haven't seen you here indeed, welcome back. I will let you know when I need more help. As mentioned earlier, I can use more help in sharpening similar photos such as the close-up photo of KL I have in the qeue. I have difficulty in editing such photos without the smaller letterings on the aircraft becoming more jagged. How can I improve the quality of such images? Any tips are welcome of course  Smile

Please see my American Airlines photo upload below:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/AA738RCCUR241205A.jpg

Any tips on this photo?

Thanks,

Roger Big grin
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:02 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 33):
what do you mean with checking my PM?

Check your personal message  Smile ... I sent my e-mail address to ya...so that you can send me your original for editing  Smile

Which camera do you use Roger? Your background seems washed out all the time...Thats why I asked if you use any Noise reduction software which also causes these...

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:40 am

Roger, Can I ask what camera you are using?

Thanks a lot and nice shots! Bradley Wray
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:22 am

Hello Roger.

Thanks for those kind words - I have been preoccupied with other stuff recently.

That AA shot definitely looks better. Still small issues with the sharpening. Do you tend to apply sharpening to a copy layer? I think this is an important editing issue, because it allows you to get rid of excess sharpening using the eraser tool. I read recently about using layer masks also, though I am not familiar with that method.

Do feel free to get in touch if you need any help.

Paul
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:01 am

Heey everybody,

Thanks for the replies. Vas, I haven't received an email from you (that's odd). I use Adobe Photo Shop to edit all my photos. I used to work with Paint Shop Pro but now find Photo Shop a better program to use.

I used the Canon EOS300D but it's broke now so I'm thinking of buying the EOS350D as that's the only similar camera I can afford at the moment.

I agree, the sharpening of photos is still something I'm learning to work with. My experience also has shown me that sharpening is more difficult with some airline liveries such as the one of AA. Here's the things I do when I edit a photo:

- First I rotate the photo to level the aircraft with the following steps:

Image --> Rotate --> Custom... --> rotate to the left or right with settings depending on the photo of course.

- After this I brighten/darken the photo with the levelling tool. The steps I take here are:

Enhance --> Adjust Brightness/Contrast --> Levels --> Here I do the following:

I drag the black and white Input Levels sliders (directly underneath the histogram) to the edge of the first group of pixels on either end of the histogram. Then I drag the black and white Output Levels sliders (at the bottom of the dialog box) to adjust the shadow and highlight range. This way I try to get the 'right' histogram for the photo. This also depends on the photo. I mostly use the highest level of 255 but if a photo is too bright I lower this to between 245-250.

- Sharpen the photo. The steps I take here are:

Filter --> Sharpen --> USM with settings of 500% (amount), 0,2 pixels (Radius), Threshold at 0 levels. This also depends on the photo.

- Resize the photo.

Quoting Psych (Reply 36):
Do you tend to apply sharpening to a copy layer? I think this is an important editing issue, because it allows you to get rid of excess sharpening using the eraser tool. I read recently about using layer masks also, though I am not familiar with that method.

Hey Paul, what do you exactly mean by using a copy layer? I haven't worked with layers so far. So please do tell me more  Smile

Vas, can you send me an email because I don't know where to view my personal messages.

Any tips on how I can improve my photo editing techniques?

Regards and thanks,

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:43 pm

Hi again Roger.

Okay - I think this might be an important issue for you.

It may be worth your while to take a look at this thread. I explain exactly what I do in Reply 10 there.

I would generally agree with the amount of USM you initially apply, but in some instances - unless you use a more sophisticated method - even that amount will create some jaggies. As you say, some liveries are prone to jaggies quickly. I don't use your PS program, but you will be able to get the layers palette easily - in mine you simply press F7 to get it up, or use the menu function. Once again, either by using the keyboard shortcut - Ctrl+J - or the menu, you can then make a duplicate or copy layer. You can think of this as having 2 versions of your photo, matched exactly, the copy layer sitting on top of the original. If you leave the copy layer active/highlighted in the Layers palette then that is the one you are working on.

By applying the sharpening to this layer you will see the effect. But there remains the unsharpened original layer sitting underneath - which you cannot see. If you then see too much sharpening, creating jaggies, you can then use the eraser tool (I suggest setting it as in the post linked above) to rub out that bit of the copy layer and so expose the unsharpened original 'underneath'. i.e. you are messing around with the copy layer but not touching the original. By judicious use of the eraser tool you can combine the effects of original and copy to get the best compromise of sharpening - i.e. like an in-between version, somewhere between no sharpening and the whole effect. This way you will be able to get a lot more control over how much sharpening is applied in key areas - e.g. along cheat lines.

Once you are happy you still have 2 versions of the photo, so you can then go to the menu within the palette and merge or flatten the layers, so they become one photo again.

That's it really. I hope I have explained this clearly enough - let me know if you need any further clarification.

Cheers.

Paul
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:56 pm

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the information. Maybe you can help me with the following (or anyone reading this). I have seen people talking about selective sharpening where you select an area you want to sharpen and not the entire photo but I have stilled failed in finding this tool in Photo Shop. In the thread you linked about photo editing they are also talking about the magic wand (or tool) and the layers but how can I manually set the selection I want the magic wand to use or is this not possible? I see the magic wand blocks the selected areas to be edited? What does the magic wand exactly allow you to do? When I want to clone an area I notice the cloned colour changes with the different areas I want to clone. An example, when I select the blue colour of my KLM MD11 photo and I use it on the tail, the blue color I selected has changed to grey/white. Normally the colour remains blue if I don't use the magic wand that has selected the entire aircraft. How does this work?

When I select the Layer function in Photo Shop I don't see a duplicate phot appear. Only the title of the photo name changes into 'copy of ....' but I don't see my original photo. How does this layer function work? And how do you combine or merge these two photos? Am I understanding you correct that you merge your edited copy photo with your original photo?

What I do see is the small screen in the USM function where you can see the photo and how much it is sharpened with the settings you select, do you mean this?

Also when I use the eraser tool I see the eraser changes the photo into grey and white small squares on a automatically selected area it seems, what am I doing wrong here?

Regards,

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:35 pm

Hello again,

Here I am again after a long time. I would like to thank everybody who helped me out here. You have been of great help. The following photos were accepted:


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Once again, thank you very much for your help and keep the tips coming Big grin

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:26 pm

Hi Roger,
Glad to see the AeroGal which I suggested to re-center  Smile

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:58 pm

Hi Roger.

Many congratulations on getting your recent shots accepted.

My apologies - I hadn't read your reply 39 until now, so never answered any of those questions. Are you still struggling with those same issues? If so let me know and I will try to help you out further.

All the best.

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:24 pm

Hi Vasanth,

Thanks. I haven't heard from you since I sent you two of my photos you wanted to have a look at. Any news....?

Paul,

Thanks for the compliments too. You have been of great help, just as Vasanth is. I will let you know if I have more questions.

Cheers,

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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:07 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 43):
I haven't heard from you since I sent you two of my photos you wanted to have a look at. Any news....?

Hi Roger,
I sent my email address to your both PM and mail earlier. If you didnt receive it, send me your email address to me. Just hit the "Send Instant Msg" button in my message on this forum.

Cheers!!
--Vas
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A388
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:46 am

Hi Vasanth,

Thanks for the reply. I haven't received an email. How can I access the instant messages? I can't find a link.

Regards,

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:40 am

This should be it...
Home->All Member Services->View Instant message history ( http://www.airliners.net/discussions/totalhistory.main )

You should also get a notification message while accessing the forums. Its a bright yellow text on the top right corner...

Anyways...Just shoot me an email to vasanthd @ sbcglobal . net

Cheers!!
--Vas
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A388
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:11 pm

Hi Vasanth,

Sorry for the late reply but I didn't have much internet access the last few weeks. But thanks for all your help. I see now how to access my instant messages so I'm reading all my personal messages only now (including yours).

Many thanks for all your tips, I have learnt more about aircraft photography because of everybody on the forum, including you. Many thanks!  Smile

Are you familiar with the photo editing program Photo Studio? I got the program with the new camera I bought but I haven't really looked into the program yet.

Regards,

Roger
 
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RE: Rejection For Bad Centered, Need Help

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:32 pm

I just saw I lost all my aircraft photos taken after May of 2005 because my pc crashed a month ago  Sad

I have a lot of photos to make!!!!! I will post my questions here in the forum whenever they arise.

Roger

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