airbusA346
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First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:46 am

Well, today I went to MAN to use my 350D for the first time.

The weather was rubbish  Sad

Here are some of the results.
1) http://members.lycos.co.uk/airbusa346/IMG_0055.JPG
2) http://members.lycos.co.uk/airbusa346/IMG_0061.JPG
3) http://members.lycos.co.uk/airbusa346/IMG_0070.JPG
4) http://members.lycos.co.uk/airbusa346/IMG_0070.JPG
5) http://members.lycos.co.uk/airbusa346/IMG_0109.JPG

What do you think.

Any comments welcome.

Tom.
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Thread starter):
The weather was rubbish



Quoting AirbusA346 (Thread starter):
What do you think.

Any comments welcome.

Yup. You are right on that. The pictures are not far behind because of it. They are all soft, or blurry, and underexposed. I would wait for better weather to practice with. You will be better off in the long run.
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:00 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 1):

But can't they be editted in some way, to make them better.

Tom.
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 2):
But can't they be editted in some way, to make them better.

I'm afraid not. To be honest, it really isn't worth going to the airport on days like today. In this sort of weather your photo's will not be worth it. Better waiting till the weather is nicer. Choose a day when the sun is out.  Smile
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:09 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 2):
But can't they be editted in some way, to make them better.

Tom, "better" is in the eye of the beholder in this case. As to "making" them "better" after the fact, you're asking the wrong person. You can make them better if you re-shoot them properly in better light, yes.
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:20 am

Tom,

I know it must be exciting taking your DSLR out to MAN for the very first time, I was exactly the same!  Wink

However, taking good photographs is all about knowing your equipment more than anything and knowing the environment you are taking pictures in and this takes practice! Before you try and upload anything go out and learn how to use your camera blindfolded! Get to know your camera inside out, back to front and upside down lol.  Smile
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
Get to know your camera inside out, back to front and upside down lol.

And feel free to phone a mate if you're stuck  Big grin  Wink
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 6):
feel free to phone a mate if you're stuck

Preferably one that know what they are talking about!  Wow!  Wink
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:30 am

Sorry, but the weather really was against you.

None of those shots will make the cut.

Some days, it's better to stay home ...
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:41 am

Also how can I stop the camera and lens/glass getting wet from the rain.

Because all those shots that I have shown you, we taken in the pooring rain.

Tom.
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 9):
Also how can I stop the camera and lens/glass getting wet from the rain.

Stay indoors in poor weather. Big grin
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 9):
Also how can I stop the camera and lens/glass getting wet from the rain.

try not using them in the rain! lol
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:46 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 9):
all those shots that I have shown you, we taken in the pooring rain.

Tom, why are you asking for advice on photo's that were taken in pouring rain???!!!!!

Btw I use a Tesco carrier bag with an elastic band. Big grin
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:52 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 9):
Also how can I stop the camera and lens/glass getting wet from the rain.

I have to ask.... Are you serious with that question?
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:05 am

Hello guys... I don't know if this helps you but I have done an edit of the Alitalia and it doesn't look too bad to me... I mean, considering the weather conditions.


http://www.fs-gs.com/edit2.jpg

http://www.fs-gs.com/edit1.jpg
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:23 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 13):
Are you serious with that question?

Yes if it's raining I use a carrier bag to stop the camera getting wet! But not for stuff I would upload to airliners lol. 

For motor rally pics and stuff it is necessary!

[Edited 2006-03-26 22:27:33]
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:29 am

Why do you buy a 8.2 megapixel camera and shoot 4.1 MP pictures???

Phil / EDDL
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:58 am

Quoting EDDL (Reply 16):
Why do you buy a 8.2 megapixel camera and shoot 4.1 MP pictures

You what?  Confused  Confused

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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:01 am

Phil means the quality of the shots are 4.1 MP. Check the main menu of your 350 and look for the Large image mode (the one with image having a fully curved side, you see what I mean) or shot raw. Did you see the edits?
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:05 am

Quoting Glapira (Reply 18):
Phil means the quality of the shots are 4.1 MP. Check the main menu of your 350 and look for the Large image mode (the one with image having a fully curved side, you see what I mean) or shot raw.

Yes, exactly.  Smile Choose JPEG Large/Fine.

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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:07 am

Tom, what EDDL wanted to say is: why dont you shoot at highest resolution?

Assuming the pictures above are originals straight out of the camera, you appear to shoot in Medium (M) mode. Enter your camera menu and choose Large-Fine (L) as picture size and quality. This will have advantages when you edit your photos, give you better quality and comes in handy if you want to make prints one day...

EDIT: Looks like the others were faster  Wink

[Edited 2006-03-26 23:08:11]
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:08 am

Quoting Glapira (Reply 18):
Phil means the quality of the shots are 4.1 MP. Check the main menu of your 350 and look for the Large image mode (the one with image having a fully curved side, you see what I mean) or shot raw.

Oh, OK, I'll check that again, before I use it, when I go to AMS in April. Big grin

Quoting Glapira (Reply 18):
Did you see the edits?

Yeh, I've seen them, Thanks for that  Wink

And I've uploaded the Alitalia one, to see if it will get past the screeners.  crossfingers   crossfingers 

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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:10 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 21):
I've uploaded the Alitalia one, to see if it will get past the screeners.

It won't. Delete it. It's well below standard.
 
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:12 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 21):
And I've uploaded the Alitalia one, to see if it will get past the screeners.

Unedited? Not a chance. I'd really wait until you get a sunny day. Right now your ambition is overriding your experience; there's really no point in uploading these until you've a firm idea what you're doing.

You've got a long road ahead of you, learn some basic techniques and you'll be okay.
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:17 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 22):
It won't. Delete it. It's well below standard.

Sorry Tom, but you have NO chance. As the others have said, take your time, learn about the camera and look closely at the photos on the site.
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:25 am

Hey guys, I agree about the thing that It will probably wont get into the DB: but consider it is a rainy day... there are lot of shots like this on the DB. Tom, you better keep practising and as the others have said, you better go in a sunny day. Unless the photo is very spectacular, rainy days aren't the ones prefered by the screeners. Good luck anyways!
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RE: First Outting With My 350D.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:17 am

Hi Tom.

As a Manchester resident you have my sympathies - waiting for nice sunny weather can be a test of patience around here  biggrin .

But I think you have been given some good advice here - you need to feel confident with your equipment and your environment. In those conditions you need to stack the cards in your favour, so taking originals with the maximum quality is a MUST. Also, despite the clouds, light conditions are still very important. Although you couldn't see it, you were still pointing your lens roughly in the direction of the sun from the Viewing Park, so that will be a big negative too.

With the 'sun' - or should we say here, 'light source' - behind you, and knowing how to get the best from your equipment, you can still produce worthwhile images. For example:

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Photo © Paul Markman
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Photo © Paul Markman


Both these shots were taken on the worst day of weather I have ever had whilst out with my camera.

Cheers.

Paul

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