jumbojim747
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Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:23 pm

I'm just not very sure about this pic.
I like the pic and wanted to upload it i have some others from the sequence but i liked this one as it shows some activity around the beach.
It has some things I'm doubtful about .
The tower being cut the people on the beach and the sun reflection on the metal plate behind the aircraft.
Are any if all these things going to assist me in getting a rejection .?
and boy have i had some lately just want to be sure and slow the rejection rate down a little.
Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:27 pm

Hi Jim,

I actually like it. The fence around the nose is possibly too close for comfort. I know you've leveled it with the tower in the background but the aircraft looks like its need CCW rotation. Also the tower being cut off might warrant a motive rejection. But its not distracting in any way for me. The people are not an issue for me, they arent recognisable.

Lets see what the others think.

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:32 pm

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 1):
but the aircraft looks like its need CCW rotation.

Colin believe it or not the runway slopes down from left to right and is very much visible when you look at it sometimes i think the runway is slowly sinking into the water at the far right side.
Thanks for the quick comment appreciated.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:34 pm

Hi Jim,

Quoting JumboJim747 (Thread starter):
The tower being cut the people on the beach and the sun reflection on the metal plate behind the aircraft.

Personally I don't think any of these single factors warrants a rejection. But I do think the pic on the whole is a bit awkward, with the nose only just clearing the fence.

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:35 pm

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 2):
the runway slopes down from left to right and is very much visible when you look at it sometimes

I thought that was it Jim, ignore that comment then!

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:56 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
Personally I don't think any of these single factors warrants a rejection. But I do think the pic on the whole is a bit awkward, with the nose only just clearing the fence.

Yeh the fence doesn't help matters and if its distracting i might have to give the shot the flick.

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 4):
I thought that was it Jim, ignore that comment then!

No need to ignore the comment Colin your comments are always valued to me .
Plus its a good observation by you.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:48 am

It does look a bit awkward with the building on the left. I would pull it.  Smile
 
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:37 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 6):
It does look a bit awkward with the building on the left. I would pull it.

i can crop to include the whole building (tower) would that help ?
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:48 am

Jim,

I think it's a great looking shot...it's always nice to get a fresh perspective or a bit of a "different" looking photo than the "usual" A.Net shot. I think this one has that look and feel with the people on the beach and the beach itself. Don't pull it!

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:00 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 7):
i can crop to include the whole building (tower) would that help ?

tons, then leave a little more space to the right of the aircraft to make the crop equal. then id say that takes away the possibility of bad motive.



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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting Mongorat (Reply 8):
I think this one has that look and feel with the people on the beach and the beach itself.

Greetings, overall good photo but an uncomfortable fence (in my opinion!). There are not too many beach pictures on a.net except for those out of St. Maarten-Princess Juliana Int'l - TNCM Netherlands Antilles.

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 9):
tons, then leave a little more space to the right of the aircraft to make the crop equal. then id say that takes away the possibility of bad motive.

But might open the door for a distance rejection ?

Quoting Mongorat (Reply 8):
I think it's a great looking shot...it's always nice to get a fresh perspective or a bit of a "different" looking photo than the "usual" A.Net shot.

Its refreshing to do something different that's why i chose this shot i have plenty of the same aircraft from the sequence without the people and the tower in them but i chose this one for this reason.

Quoting Simtim (Reply 10):
Greetings, overall good photo but an uncomfortable fence (in my opinion!).

That is the sticking point for me at the moment .
Thank you all for the comments and help
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:27 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 11):
But might open the door for a distance rejection ?

well, dont open it Terribly much, maybe an inch or less. otherwise its bad_Center. but that fence shouldnt be a problem, look at some of the runway shots, they block half the view almost. they got in (no not 59 years ago ) 1/2 a year ago too. i just say recrop and a small tad of recentering, id be glad to provide an edit example if i could see the original. As always id be glad to help. Its a great shot with great potential

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:22 am

I personally think it sums up that area of Sydney Airport. People on the beach, aircraft moving every which way. I'd leave it there - The fence may be a bit in the way, but its not covering any of the aircraft so its safe in that regard.
I've seen more distracting shots with fences than this one. If it were me, I'd leave it and see.
 
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:39 pm

How's this?

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:55 pm

Jim, it would be a serious shame if you pulled the shot from the Queue. It's not the standard "Hey look dudes... IT'S AN AIRPLANE!" shot that we see so often. Derr of course it's an airplane this is airliners.net...show us something different maybe?

You have done just that. You took an airplane and placed it in it's element. It's right above the beach, it's behind the fence, in front of the tower, on the runway, at the airport, at SYD. Leave it in.

9V- Your shot is nice too, just needs a little CW judging by the leaning tower of SYD.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:11 pm

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 12):
well, dont open it Terribly much, maybe an inch or less. otherwise its bad_Center

shannon what do you thin of Ian's edit is that enough.?

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 12):
Its a great shot with great potential

thank you very much for the kind words.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 13):
I personally think it sums up that area of Sydney Airport.

It does in a way Martin .

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 14):
How's this?

hey Ian it looks great but is it enough to escape a distance rejection ?

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 15):
Jim, it would be a serious shame if you pulled the shot from the Queue. It's not the standard "Hey look dudes... IT'S AN AIRPLANE!" shot that we see so often

hey thanks Eric i am trying to do some different stuff lately I'm slowly running out of subjects to upload and i don't want to upload the same reg and same motiv twice i try to avoid that .

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 15):
t's right above the beach, it's behind the fence, in front of the tower, on the runway, at the airport, at SYD. Leave it in.

A pretty good summary Eric.


Appreciate the help all thanks again.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:03 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 16):
but is it enough to escape a distance rejection ?

Looks perfect to me. Just not sure if it's 100% level though (although it looks ok to me). I'll leave that upto you.
 
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 17):
I'll leave that upto you.

Ian can you do me a level edit of the shot and will go with your version thanks again.
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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:33 am

would like to thank everyone who helped me and commented on this shot.
It was accepted.


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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:41 am

Hi Jim,

Good to see it in, despite my worries about that fence. Original picture - nice scene!

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RE: Should It Stay Or Should It Go?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 20):
Good to see it in, despite my worries about that fence. Original picture - nice scene!

Thank you Peter appreciate the kind words.
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