Chuffy
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Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:40 am

Hello my learned friends.
Are there any pictures on a.net taken with a tripod on the ground of aircraft leaving contrails/high alt.

If so what was the lens used.


Thanks


Chuffy
 
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:59 am

Why do you think a tripod is necessary? When I shoot airliners in high altitude I usually have more than enough light even with ISO 100.

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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:02 am

Lots of dustspots on both your shots TS, please consider a reupload Wink

I agree though, you don't need a tripod to shoot contrails. Might also not be very practical if the aircraft is exactly above you.

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mygind66
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:52 am

I agree with the problem facing when the aircraft is on top.. It's really difficult to manage this with a tripod.. In these cases a monopod can help.. but normally I use the camera without them, probably because when I see one aircraft in high altitude is a quick photo ( I'm at home and have no time to prepare everything...)

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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:58 am

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 2):
Lots of dustspots on both your shots TS, please consider a reupload

Those were accepted in the good old days ...
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Chuffy
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:23 pm

Thank you for your inputs.

I mentioned a tripod because I will be shooting at angles between 30 and 70 degrees as thats the flightpath over my house.

There is a mega large 600/1300mm with a 2 times converter available for cheap money, if this is its only use, is it up to the work?
I have a 300d.

Or is more money better spent on less zoom?

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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:33 pm

I have never tried uploading one of these images, must do so one day, but the only way they are going to get accepted is when the trail forms a part of the image.
I get reasonable images with a Sigma 50-500 on a Canon 20D (aircraft at cruising altitude)
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:10 pm

Chuffy,

With a 600mm lens you need an extra, extra sturdy & long tripod & also a professional head. We're talking about hundreds of pounds. The roof of a car mostly will do, so I'd try without a tripod first.

Thomas
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Chuffy
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:13 pm

Thanks TS.
Would you go for a more exspensive lower zoom or a cheaper big one, just for the sole purpose of photographing at high alt from the ground?
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 2):
Lots of dustspots on both your shots TS, please consider a reupload

Wow, how did those slip by? No equalization required here!
 
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting Chuffy (Reply 8):
Would you go for a more exspensive lower zoom or a cheaper big one, just for the sole purpose of photographing at high alt from the ground?

Hm, I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. If you want to shoot airliners in upper air space only, buy the longest lens you can get (afford). As a rule of thumb, prime lenses are more expensive but also much better in quality. I'm sure the Canon EF 500 f/4L IS or Canon 600 f/4L IS would be excellent choices, especially if equipped with a teleconverter, but they are out of reach for the vast majority of photographers, including me.

If you want to spend less money check out the Canon 100-400, the Sigma 50-500 or the Sigma 170-500. Both the Sigma zooms don't have image stabilizers, but that shouldn't be a major problem with exposure times of 1/500s. A lens that is mentioned again & again in forums is the Canon EF 400mm f/5.6L. Also doesn't have an image stabilizer, but it's supposed to be tack-sharp even wide open. With my 100-400 I only use f/8 or even smaller apertures. Otherwise everything looks blurry.

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Wow, how did those slip by? No equalization required here!

When uploading a photo just type in your credit card number in the remark field. This works wonders! Big grin
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:16 am

Quoting Chuffy (Reply 8):
exspensive lower zoom or a cheaper big one

What is expensive or cheap for you?

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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting Mygind66 (Reply 11):
What is expensive or cheap for you?

About 300 gbp

Chuffy
 
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:48 pm

Quoting Chuffy (Reply 12):
About 300 gbp

Let's ask this way:
1. What is expensive for you?
2. What is cheap for you?
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Chuffy
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RE: Telephoto Evidence Required Please

Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:35 pm

Well I have found an Optica 600/1300mm with 2x converter for 170 GBP or so, an expensive lens would be anything over about 500 GBP

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