GertLOWG
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Jaggies In My Photos?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:19 pm

Hallo!

I got a rejection because of jaggies in this photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ns/big/20060416_AMS02601042006.jpg
Is it possible to correct these jaggies? I use Phase One Pro for my RAW files and Photoshop Elements 3.0.

What do you think about this photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/AMS1100406.jpg
Are the jaggies to strong or is it good enough to let it in queue?

Thank you very much, and sorry about my bad english.

Best Regards!

Gert!
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:28 pm

Gert,

The KLM shot is too jaggie, especially around the nose area of the 767 and with wings, either corrected by being less agressive when you sharpen or by other means in photoshop although I am no wizz at editing, just do the basics so someone like JeffM or similar will be able to help you, or have a search of the archives to find one of the threads on avoiding jaggies and editing.

The second one looks good to me, on my monitor and with my eyes I think it would be harsh if the NW -10 got rejected for being jaggie but everyone has a different monitor and different views on jaggies so who knows.

Ben
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:35 pm

Hi Gert.

Yep - that first one is suffering with noticeable jaggies on the cheat line. The second much less so, though near the nose there are slight jaggies on the livery (and very slightly on the wing). But I am not sure these would warrant a rejection. You may have more problems convincing the screeners that the image is level.

I would suggest the following method - apply your sharpening to a duplicate layer. Then if jaggies are produced you can use the eraser tool to 'rub out' the sharpening you have applied in particular areas - e.g. along the cheat line - and by altering the settings you can rub out different amounts of the sharpening initially applied. Thus, for example, by setting the tool to 100%, you will rub out all the sharpening applied to the copy layer, so exposing the unsharpened background layer below. When you are happy with what you see simply merge the layers and you have one photo again.

Another method is to mask off the areas that you do not want to sharpen, or select them, but I find this more complicated than the method described above, and they should produce the same result.

Let me know if you need any more help.

All the best.

Paul
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:07 am

Gert,
Once all you other corrections are done and you are ready for sharpening, just duplicate the layer, sharpen (standard or usm at 500-.02-0), then select Layer>Layer Mask>Hide all. At this point you won't see any sharpening. Check to make sure the two colors (foreground and background squares) are white and black. Make White the active color, then select a paint brush with a hardness of about 20-30, an opacity around 40-60, then just "paint" your sharpening on the areas you want. If you get too much, switch to the black brush and paint off some sharpening. No need to mess with erasing. Want more sharpening, switch back to white and keep going. Flatten when done.

You can use this method for levels, shadow removal, saturation, etc.....
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:17 am

Hi JeffM,
Thanks a lot for this technique, it works great. I should re-read my Photoshop manuals... or get a PS class fro you. If you ever come here, I take you on a T210 run in exchange of a few techniques like this. Smile
Cheers
Patrick
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JeffM
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting Coninpa (Reply 4):
Thanks a lot for this technique, it works great.

No problem, glad you like it!
 
GertLOWG
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:21 pm

Thank you very much .

[Edited 2006-04-17 11:23:09]
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:56 pm

About the 2nd photo; it looks like it needs a touch of CCW rotation to me.

Nice shot!
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:46 pm

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 519kb


Is it better now? Maybe to soft?

Here is the rejected photo:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 682 File size: 468kb


[Edited 2006-04-18 10:53:20]
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:46 pm

Quoting GertLOWG (Reply 8):


Is it better now? Maybe to soft?

It's definitely less jagged.

It also appears to be unlevel now. Might need a CCW rotation a bit.
 
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RE: Jaggies In My Photos?

Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:45 am

It appears a bit too soft to me, and it needs definitely some CCW rotation.

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