aero145
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A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:37 am

Hello guys,

Could you help me with some rejections?

If so, here are they:

This one was rejected for quality:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1474/tfjmm7309130220065zo.jpg

This one was also rejected for quality:

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/5701/tfcsf8259230320064ef.jpg

And this was rejected for jagged:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/604/tftoy89273103200622at.jpg

A friend of my edited this photo again, and this was the result:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8021/img8927x9jv.jpg

Do you think the edited one is good enough for a re-upload? I'd really like to get this one into the database.  Smile

Thanks!
David  Silly
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:46 am

Hi David.

First shot - I would recommend uploading at 1024, as that always helps with quality issues. But when you do open the shot up there is some softness, and the contrast issues mean that a lot of the image is just a bit dark.

Second - Overall a better one than the first, but I think the flat lighting didn't help you. There are some jaggies on the livery stripe on the nose and towards the tail, and the top and nose highlights are slightly burned out.

Third - I think the second version is a bit better, but those jaggies around the registration and particularly the black edge of the white stripes are noticeable. I think the screeners will think you can erase those a bit more.

All the best.

Paul

P.S. David - if you want me to try a 1024 edit on the Fokker just let me know.

[Edited 2006-04-24 18:56:22]
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:49 am

Hi Paul.

Thanks for the reply.

I tried the Fokker shot in 1024, but it was useless. 1200 pixels is the smallest I can. Otherwise, jaggies will appear.

-David
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:51 am

Great shots and definately salvageable with some expert editing.  Smile

I'm no expert but feel free to drop me a line.
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:35 am

David,

Thanks for the originals. As regards the first shot, I'm afraid the original is way too dark. One look at the histogram shows everything on the black side. And also the original is sharp. Check your in-camera settings and try to leave the sharpness at neutral if you can. However I think this is better but still unfortunately not anet quality.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 781 File size: 716kb


As regards the second shot, same thing again. The histogram is all over the place on that one. I don't think it can be improved enough for anet although I didn't crop it so tightly and a great shot to keep for yourself. There are also a few dust spots on it too.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 730 File size: 88kb


The third shot is my favourite and maybe ok with better expert editing - I really like it. Here is my attempt although there is some kind of mark on the runway I noticed.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 746 File size: 801kb


Keep an eye on those histograms and check the camera settings for optimum shooting.

Hope this helps.  Smile
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:14 am

Hello guys.

Mick Bajcar tried to edit the photo, here comes is work. Is this maybe A.net-quality? And would you crop tighter to the fuselage so the plane would look like it is hanging in the air?

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 727kb


Here's a similar photo that Paul Markman took:


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Photo © Paul Markman

 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:19 am

Wow Mick! You did a much better job than moi! That's pretty cool photoshopping there!  

I still don't understand all this layers business. I guess at some point I'm gonna have to though.  Smile

[Edited 2006-04-24 22:26:39]
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:22 am

For me your pictures look stunning! You really have some nice ideas! I would keep that in mind and put some more attention on this fact than on the qualtity (which is far better than mine!)
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:38 am

Thank you Ian and Stephan.

I think it's time to upload the photo again.

Best regards,
David

PS: I hope this photo will not ruin my very low 68% acceptance ratio... Sad

[Edited 2006-04-24 22:39:52]
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:45 am

Hi David.

I think Mick has done a good job there with the Fokker. I still see a little softness and some very slight jaggies on the lettering, but it's pretty minor. Having said this, there are plenty of imperfections in my shot that you kindly featured.

I was thinking - that is a very nice motive you have there  biggrin .

Paul
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:46 am

Thanks Paul.

Do you think you could do something with the Pitts Special photo?

Regards!
David
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:43 pm

Hey guys.

The Fokker (JMM) picture and Pitts (TOY) are now queued, JMM edit by Mick Bajcar and TOY edit by Paul Markman. I give big thanks to them.

Here are their edits:

TF-TOY

TF-JMM

I know the TF-TOY shot is a little soft, but with more sharpness, it'll become too jagged. I hope the screeners will understand this shot.  Smile

The Fokker shot wasn't cropped more in the sides because Mick Bajcar said that it does look to un-natural. Oh well, it is fine.  Smile

Best regards,
David  Silly
 
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RE: A Few Rejections. Could You Help Me With Them?

Sun May 07, 2006 9:16 am

Hello guys,

I here want to thank you for helping me with the photos, one of them has been accepted!


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Photo © David Alfred Eliasson - Reykjavik Spotters



The TF-TOY photo is now in screening, I hope it will be accepted, and it wouldn't suprise me, because Paul Markman, a good editor, edited the pic.  Smile

Regards,
David  Silly

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