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Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:00 am

I am extremely dissatisfied with my Canon EOS Rebel XT. I've now taken over four hundred pictures with it and the only ones that are not completely blurry are the ones my wife took in Macro.

It has the Canon 18-55 mm zoom lens. I've been led to believe that is the problem.

We bought it at Costco and if I cannot find a solution I am going to take it back. (Really sorry I already gave my old Sony F707 to my son. It took infinitely better pictures.

NOTE: I think I may have asked this question on here before but I just went back and read every single post I've ever made in this forum, even before I bought the Canon, and cannot find this topic.


What can I do?
Is there a good lens?
Doesn't the 20D come with the same lens?
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linco22
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:16 am

Sorry if i'm asking questiones you've already answered, but what setting have you been using etc etc? Auto Focus, Av, Tv??? Have you tried the body with a different lens?

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:54 am

Yes the 20D has the same kit lens, so does the regular Digital Rebel (300D), which I own. I've never had a problem with it, so I don't know. Definitely make sure, you have the lens set to AF instead of MF.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:58 am

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 2):
Definitely make sure, you have the lens set to AF instead of MF.

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I would definetly sit down with the owner's manual and make sure you have everything set-up correctly.
 
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting SlamClick (Thread starter):
Is there a good lens?

I think if you like the same focal length range as that kit lens provides, you may consider Canon EF 17-40 f/4L USM.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:28 am

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 4):
you may consider Canon EF 17-40 f/4L USM.

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There's a difference between not sharp and blurry. The kit lens def isn't the best, but it shouldn't produce blurry images. Do you have any examples that you can post?

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:10 am

have no problems with my 350D and 18-55 EF-S but use the 70-300 IS USM the most time. Maybe you need more training and read the manual and try and try and try.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:26 pm

When working with consumer lenses, you'll find that they're soft wide open (e.g. f4-5.6). Try using aperture priority (AV). Start using f8.0 and if possible (and lighting conditions need to be good), try using f11. The sweet spot for these lenses seems to be around f11.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:20 pm

Quoting Glennstewart (Reply 7):
When working with consumer lenses, you'll find that they're soft wide open (e.g. f4-5.6).

But even when shooting at 3.5 with the 18-55mm the results should definitely not be blurry, unless maybe he's using it for aviation photography. But when I've used it on several trips I like using the wider angle and if I need to I will stop down to 3.5 but i still get rather sharp photos. Either the lens is broken, or the autofocus is not turned on.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:59 am

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 2):
Definitely make sure, you have the lens set to AF instead of MF.

I have used both. AF is like shooting through a fish tank. MF focused at infinity gives a fair sharpness to objects fifty feet or so away, but nowhere near as good as I got with my sister's Kodak duoflex.

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 3):
I would definetly sit down with the owner's manual and make sure you have everything set-up correctly.

Always good advice. I read it, pretty much cover-to-cover before I took a single picture. Then, as I said, I've taken over four hundred pictures since, trying different things.

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 5):
Do you have any examples that you can post?

Sorry, I don't have an anonymous hosting capability at the moment and I'm going to resolve the camera issue before I could even set anything up.

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 4):
I think if you like the same focal length

It seems to be adequate for general use. If I ever learn to like the camera I will also look for some additional tele power.

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 6):
Maybe you need more training and read the manual and try and try and try.

More training is always a good thing. As I said, I did read the manual and I've tried over 400 shots. I'm not a complete noob; I've been semi-pro photographer, with a catalog shoot, and I've sold a number of pictures out of my contributions to this database. I'm rather good with Photoshop and can correct all manner of imperfections in photos there, but you have to have the basic image there to begin with. I can color correct, or crop out, or sharpen a little bit, but I cannot bring a blurry image into focus.

If I took a picture of an airplane a hundred feet or so away with my old F707, the top or bottom of the fuselage being frame-level, should be a transition from sky to metal over the space of three or four pixels. With this camera's results it would be twenty or more.

I am coming close to the end of the money-back guarantee from Costco so I'm starting to feel the pressure on this.

Thanks for your advice folks.
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:43 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 9):
I don't have an anonymous hosting capability at the moment

You can host pictures on the airliners.net account now. It is to the left in the text-typing box and says "Add Images." I'd like to see an example or two, along with others, since I was considering getting this camera but this is the second case I know of now where the picures are coming out blurry. A friend of mine said the same thing.
 
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:47 am

Well, I think the damn thing is going back to the store.

I've spent two days now, camera in my lap, book in my hand. It still sucks!

One problem might be that it was the 'floor model' and the last one in the store. There were strange settings everywhere in the menus. For example in the 'creative modes' like Av and Tv, it was set to black and white! I think some shopper who knew the camera 'vandalized' the settings and I might never be smart enough to get them back to what they should be.

I did play around with manual focus and the best shot I could get was nowhere near as good as the Sony F707 I gave away, and not quite as good as with the Sony F505 I still have.

Now I am in a quandary. I'd like a good digital camera but I don't like anything out there. Too many features! I'll never in a thousand years use 99% of them and after 22 years of personal computers and five years of fly-by-wire airplanes I'm just not into gadgets. Worst of all this camera has 19 buttons that would change something you don't want changed if you are not really careful picking it up. (Engineers who design consumer electronics are horribly stupid!)

I'm probably a victim of my own photo habits. I really miss my old Mintola 35mms. I never used auto anything, and did not even use the light meter. I guess I shoot from the hip. I still have a Speed Graphic 4x5 and it is actually easier to take pictures with that than with this camera. I guess what I want is a point-and-shoot with a good lens and chip. I guess nobody makes such a thing

Anyway, thanks everyone for your advice and help.
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:43 am

Try going into the menu, go to the far right tab and select "Clear settings" and see if that works.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting SteveKempf (Reply 12):
Try going into the menu, go to the far right tab and select "Clear settings" and see if that works.

Thank you very much. I had not gotten there yet. I did that along with a couple of other things and I seem to be getting satisfactory results now. My wife pointed out that some menus were either missing or grayed-out. Have no idea what had been done with this camera but I don't think I'll be buying the floor model anymore. With these changes, and a bit of work in Photoshop and they will probably be superior to the 35mm scans and the F-707 shots I've sent up.

So now, I am primarily shooting outdoors in "Av" at f11 and using autofocus. I am recording as 'raw + L' so the files are gigantic. But in that data seems to be some pretty good information. By the time I've processed just a bit I'm getting good picture quality. I can even do the Ansel Adams 'zone' thing in photoshop with good result. (Well, not as good a result as he got.)

In this mode, as in all others the brightness seems to be a little high. I almost always have to use 'curves' in Photoshop to bring it down, but the color is good and the detail is quite good, so I'm living with that.

Anyway, the last few shots - well, this is what I bought a Digital SLR for, so again, thank you very much.
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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 11):
Now I am in a quandary. I'd like a good digital camera but I don't like anything out there. Too many features! I'll never in a thousand years use 99% of them and after 22 years of personal computers and five years of fly-by-wire airplanes I'm just not into gadgets. Worst of all this camera has 19 buttons that would change something you don't want changed if you are not really careful picking it up. (Engineers who design consumer electronics are horribly stupid!)

I find the 350D easier to handle than my Olympus C-750 point and shoot in this case.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 13):
In this mode, as in all others the brightness seems to be a little high

You can set it. Don't know how it's called in English but it's featrued in the manual. You have to push the AV +/- button next to the screen and turn the wheel. It's the thing with the +/- 0,3 0,7 1,0 settings. Maybe a native English speaker can explain what I mean.

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RE: Canon Rebel XT Question.

Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 14):
You have to push the AV +/- button next to the screen and turn the wheel. It's the thing with the +/- 0,3 0,7 1,0 settings.

Ah yes, I saw that too. Now that I can get a decent picture and I'm going to keep the camera I can go back and fine-tune it like that.

Thank you.
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