Daleaholic
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See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:05 am

OK, well I took this on 8th April when I was going to Spain from T1 at MAN. I just spent quite a while getting rid of the big pole which pretty much ruins the photo. I tried my best... What do you think?

Original:
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1200 File size: 186kb


Edited:
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 173kb


I noticed the reflections only today  Sad Oh well I suppose it will happen If I take photo's through windows. Also, can anybody possibly tell me the first two letters on the registration?

Thanks
Paul
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eadster
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:17 am

Sorry to tell you Paul but they are not going to star here.

Even though the pole is gone, the gear of the aircraft is covered and part of the engine. It will go for motiv, quality and possibly colour.
 
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:19 am

I knew that all along, definately not a.net quality and stuff. But I was just seeing how I did with the editing really. Thanks for the comments.
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:40 pm

Hi Paul,

Thanks for submitting your shots to the forums. This is the perfect place to start towards finally getting shots accepted. And to be honest, you're at the place where some of us were when we first started - the learning curve is steep, but possible to climb.

Unfortunately being at the start of your journey, looking at this photo through screener eyes reveals a fair list of rejection reasons. Don't worry, you're not unique in this category. I see photographer's first batch of attempts all the time. You're at least visiting the forums where a screener like me can pull you up on the reasons personally rather than receiving a huge email of rejections.

In addition, there is many a photographer on this forum who would be happy to lend a helping hand towards improving on both elements of the photography and editing of the shot.

As I said.... a steep learning curve, but once you get to the top, you'll be mastering our wonderful hobby of aviation photography  Smile

Now for some helpful hints (albeit the short version):

1. Take time to read the following pages:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/
http://www.airliners.net/faq/
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/queuehelp.inc

2. Read some important Forum discussions: Monitor Calibration (by TomH Nov 30 2000 in Aviation Photography) Generating Fake Photo Views (by Administrator Jan 27 2005 in Aviation Photography)

3. Take time to know your camera, your surroundings and the local spotters:
- Best time and locations to shoot at your local airport
- Best settings for your camera
- Get to know your local spotters and get hints from fellow photographers

4. Shoot with particular subjects in mind
- Start with easy all inclusive shots
- Try not to shoot common aircraft
- Refrain from shooting during bad weather initially

5. Edit, edit, edit
- The second half of getting a shot accepted is all in the edit
- Ensure correct colours, contrast and exposure
- Ensure rotation of shot is level
- Ensure shot is cropped and resized
- Ensure shot is sharpened

Okay - these are the basic, now let me turn to the rejection reasons on the shot above  Sad

Glenn
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:57 pm

ANGLE - Ever so slight correction in angle required
BLURRY - It is blurry
COLOUR - The photo is green. In real life, aircraft don't look like this. This looks like it may have been shot through tinted glass. Even by doing so, colours may often be corrected to compensate (albeit hard to do).
CONTRAST - More contrast required
DISTANCE - You could crop tighter or use longer telephoto lenses to get closer to aircraft
GRAINY - High ISO noise is visible. This is either due to using a consumer point and shoot digital, scanning (unlikely) a high ISO film/slide or using a higher ISO setting than required. Try to shoot at the lowest possible ISO setting in well lit conditions.
MOTIVE - You should shoot without clutter in this case. Why shoot with from this position given the aircraft is covered?
QUALITY - Overall there are far too many flaws in the shot to allow acceptance.
SOFT - This shot has a soft appearance. Unfortunately noise/grain should be resolved before sharpening because sharpening often increases the appearance of grain.

NOTE:
These rejection reasons are as I have noted and are related purely to the image. In addition, there are other rejection reasons related to the information added to the shot. If information isn't correct, a perfectly good shot in all visible content could still be rejected for category or informational reasons.

Kindest Regards,

Glenn Stewart
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:37 pm

Quoting Glennstewart (Reply 4):
This looks like it may have been shot through tinted glass.

This pretty much explains why the shot isn't that good... Through the terminal windows. Thankyou very much for your comments though, hopefully I can take a better shot sometime.
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RE: See What You Think...

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 5):
hopefully I can take a better shot sometime

No, I'm certain you will. You improve automatically when you identify mistakes and correct them  Smile

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