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A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 6:30 am

I received a new 30D today and the first thing was to check the sensor. Boy what a suprise, Canon really do ensure you get you monies worth of dust included in the price. To view the sensor images click the links below.

http://www.kevin-bates.com/sensor.jpg

After 6 cleans most had gone but some marks appeared to be under the filter.

http://www.kevin-bates.com/cleaned.jpg

I also noticed the focusing screen was filthy so decide to ask for a replacement. Why do Canon not assemble these cameras in a clean environment, all my cameras have had dust from new except the Olympus ones.

I know the 20D was notorious for dust but has anyone else had problems like this with the 30D?

Kevin
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 6:42 am

That's awful. Where are they actually made?
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 6:47 am

Absolutely disgraceful.
Kevin sent that image to me earlier today and I suggested he post it here.
You should surely be able to use a brand new camera out of the box without having to clean it like that. I agree that it looks like some of those marks are under the filter so you ar stuck with them !
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
That's awful. Where are they actually made?

Its says Japan on the box, I have sealed it up and await a replacement unit tomorrow, so another days cleaning to look forward to. By the time I get it clean it will be raining.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 6:56 am

Hello Kevin.

Nice to see you here.

You have my complete sympathy - a very similar story to my 20D purchase a couple of months ago now. After a number of cleans I cannot get rid of everything. Such a drawback to the world of digital photography.

Out of interest, what was the f-number for that second shot?

Take care.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting Psych (Reply 4):
Out of interest, what was the f-number for that second shot?

Hi Paul

The f-number was 13, I dare not go any higher than that, I would be having nightmares.

cheers

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 7:30 am

My 5D was just as bad.I sent it to Canon factory service to have the viewfinder and sensor cleaned,and also ask to rid the camera of dust period.Still waiting to get it back.I glad I kept my 20D as a back up.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 8:02 am

Kevin,
i'm glad i'm not the only one having problems with the 30D,had the sensor cleaned 3 times and the view finder needs to be cleaned ...not bad for a 1 month old camera...

cheers
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 8:26 am

I thought Canons never got dust in them!!


(well according to posts in another thread)
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 9:41 am

Canons newest sensors while being very good at reducing noise especially in high-iso conditions, are also quite electrically polar- they attract alot of dust very quickly.
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 9:48 am

Mine was clean out of the box, and seems to want to stay that way. I've only given it a shot of Dustoff once so far. Clean as a whistle.

Quoting BigSkyBirds (Thread starter):
Why do Canon not assemble these cameras in a clean environment,

LOL....what a funny comment.....
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 11:12 am

I am having more dust problems with my 30D than my 10D. I can state that without question.

But although dust is common, I know that the CMOS sensors attract far less dust than the CCDs in Nikons (D2X has a CMOS so has the lower dust problem of the Canons).

Dust is always going to land on the sensor, but be thankful your not the owner of a Nikon D100 - it's always been the king of dust sucking.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 12:18 pm

Quoting Glennstewart (Reply 11):
but be thankful your not the owner of a Nikon D100

LOL....I was very glad when I got rid of mine....

Quoting Glennstewart (Reply 11):
it's always been the king of dust sucking.

...it sucked at a lot of other things to...  Wink
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 4:26 pm

Hi all,

When I got my 30D it had some dust but not much, a few specs only viewable at f/11+ I used the Copper Hill method and its clean as a whistle, there are way to many variables to say what one body collects more dust than another.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 4:42 pm

I'd say there's an acceptable level before you can call it a defect, but that is absolutely unacceptable, as was the dust on Wietse's 20D when that was new.

It is a quality issue; it seemed to start with the 20D. Come on Canon.


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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 10):
Mine was clean out of the box, and seems to want to stay that way. I've only given it a shot of Dustoff once so far.

Same here with my 350D. There's no way you should start to have to clean a brand new camera like that. I would just keep asking for replacements until I got a clean one.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 5:22 pm

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
That's awful. Where are they actually made?

Dyson test facility
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 04, 2006 5:58 pm

The replacement arrived this morning and about half a dozen spots visible at f13 nothing as bad as the previous camera. So fingers crossed.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Fri May 05, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
Dyson test facility

 biggrin   biggrin 

...and to think that I was annoyed yesterday with 5 dustspots on my Nikon D70s !!!!
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Fri May 05, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting Glennstewart (Reply 11):
but be thankful your not the owner of a Nikon D100 - it's always been the king of dust sucking.

I don't know what you did with your D100 that you've got so much dust on the sensor. I'm guessing you were changing lenses in the sandbox?

I've been using D100 since 2003 and I sent it to Nikon for cleaning only once in early 2004. I don't have dust problems at all.
Keep in mind that I've shot over 100 000 images with my D100 up to date (and my shooter is still working - dust free).

Rafal

PS - I don't see Nikon user's here complaining about dust problems. I guess thats a Canon thing.
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Fri May 05, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 19):
PS - I don't see Nikon user's here complaining about dust problems. I guess thats a Canon thing

 rotfl 
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Fri May 05, 2006 3:21 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 19):
PS - I don't see Nikon user's here complaining about dust problems. I guess thats a Canon thing.

Could it possibly be because this thread was about a Canon, not Nikon camera ?
Dust is a fact of life on all digital SLRs (with the possible exception of Olympus)

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Fri May 05, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 21):
Dust is a fact of life on all digital SLRs (with the possible exception of Olympus)

Its a good thing I have my Olympus E500 to fall back on, not a single dust spot on the sensor since the day I got it. Its a shame other manufacturers don't follow Olympus's lead on this.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 6:13 am

Wow, I just can't believe they come with dust spots..

Or is the market to big at the moment for Canon that they can't only deliver 100% perfect cameras??

After one month waiting for my 30D body to come in, I had still no answer from the shop when it could be delivered.. They had the kit in stock, so instead of only the body I ordered the kit.. I was tired of waiting, but lets hope it doesn't disappoint me when it arrives Monday.
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 9:38 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 23):
Wow, I just can't believe they come with dust spots..

Any camera could be put in the box 100% dust free, but, as soon as you pull the body cap off to put a lens on.......you've exposed it. It's no big deal.

Quoting Morvious (Reply 23):
lets hope it doesn't disappoint me when it arrives Monday.

The camera is awesome. You will get dust in it.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 9:46 am

It's an interesting thread.

As I've said before, all the 20D owners I know have complained about the amount of sensor dust when they took it out of the box, but I've never had any dust problems at all with my 300D, other than the odd spot or two that have got in there as I've used it. When it came out of the box, the sensor was a clean as a whistle.

Surely when you are selling such a high-value product, it isn't too much to expect for it to be clean. If you went out and bought a new Jaguar that needed valeting when you drove it out of the garage you wouldn't be too happy.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
As I've said before, all the 20D owners I know have complained about the amount of sensor dust

I forget, how many 20D owners do you know?

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
Surely when you are selling such a high-value product, it isn't too much to expect for it to be clean.

Don't you mean to say......, when you are buying such a high value product it isn't too much to expect for it to be clean?

Of all the products Canon sells, or Nikon for that matter. Consumer grade cameras are hardly considered "high value". And how rediculous would it sound to hear the new Jaguar owner say..."I can't believe I have dust on my new car after driving it off the lot....."

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
but I've never had any dust problems at all with my 300D

 rotfl  O.K.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 12:35 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
As I've said before, all the 20D owners I know have complained about the amount of sensor dust when they took it out of the box, but I've never had any dust problems at all with my 300D, other than the odd spot or two that have got in there as I've used it. When it came out of the box, the sensor was a clean as a whistle.

Agree 100%. The 20D is a great camera but for some reason its more prone to dust than the 300D. In 5 months I have cleaned the 20D sensor more times than I ever did with my 300D (December 03-present).
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
As I've said before, all the 20D owners I know have complained about the amount of sensor dust when they took it out of the box, but I've never had any dust problems at all with my 300D, other than the odd spot or two that have got in there as I've used it. When it came out of the box, the sensor was a clean as a whistle.

I have to agree with this, I started with a 300D then moved to a 10D, neither of those cameras had dust issues like my 20D's have. The 30D seems to be similar to the 20D for dust although the second replacement camera is much better than the first which went back to the supplier.

If Olympus can sort out the dust issue then it's about time the others did.

Regards

Kevin

[Edited 2006-05-06 06:53:59]
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 4:03 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
And how rediculous would it sound to hear the new Jaguar owner say..."I can't believe I have dust on my new car after driving it off the lot....."

Not really to compare here Jeff.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 24):
as soon as you pull the body cap off to put a lens on.......you've exposed it. It's no big deal.

Have you even seen the image above??

Thats is not the dust you get from pulling the camera out of its box, getting the lens cab off and putting the lens on it.
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 8:44 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
I forget, how many 20D owners do you know?

A dozen or more in person, off the top of my head.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
Don't you mean to say......, when you are buying such a high value product it isn't too much to expect for it to be clean?

Slight confusion - yes.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
Consumer grade cameras are hardly considered "high value". And how rediculous would it sound to hear the new Jaguar owner say..."I can't believe I have dust on my new car after driving it off the lot....."

A 20D and 30D are high-value to the camera market as a Jaguar or BMW are to the car market. We are talking though about the sensor dust being present when it's taken out of the box, not when it has been used. If you just went out and bought a £30,000 car and as you got in to drive it off the dealer's forecourt the interior was filthy, you'd get right back out and say "not likely". Why should buying a camera be any different? If your spending over £1000 on a camera, you want it to come clean.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
but I've never had any dust problems at all with my 300D

O.K.



Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 25):
other than the odd spot or two that have got in there as I've used it. When it came out of the box, the sensor was a clean as a whistle.



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 27):
In 5 months I have cleaned the 20D sensor more times than I ever did with my 300D (December 03-present).

I've had my 300D 18 months and not had to clean the sensor with pads once. A quick blow of air once or twice is all it's had and it's fine. Maybe I've been lucky?

Quoting BigSkyBirds (Reply 28):
If Olympus can sort out the dust issue then it's about time the others did.

Hiya Kevin, hasn't the Olympus got some sort of self-clean for the sensor?

Regards,

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 9:24 pm

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
Dyson test facility

I'll pay that one!

Quoting Lindy (Reply 19):
I don't know what you did with your D100

I only have experience with a couple of sessions with Sam Chui's camera. I can only base my comments on his remark and of those from the forums.
I'd say more than 95% of the DSLR shooters at Sydney are Canon shooters, and it seems only the Nikon shooters seem to complain about dust.

Quoting Lindy (Reply 19):
I don't see Nikon user's here complaining about dust problems. I guess thats a Canon thing.

That's because we're all quite shocked that we're finally having to clean dust out. My 10D has been used for about 3 years solid and only a quick blow out every 3 months is required. My 30D is sucking in about twice as much.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 24):
The camera is awesome. You will get dust in it.

I'll pay this one too!

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sat May 06, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting Morvious (Reply 29):
Not really to compare here Jeff.

LOL... I wasn't being serious...

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 30):
Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
I forget, how many 20D owners do you know?

A dozen or more in person, off the top of my head.

I can say in all honesty that ALL the 20d owners I know, have not had any problems with dust.

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 30):
A 20D and 30D are high-value to the camera market as a Jaguar or BMW are to the car market.

If you say so. But there are a bunch of cameras that cost more then a simple 20d or 30d. $1500 bucks for a camera is not "top of the line" by any means. Maybe for here.

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 30):
A quick blow of air once or twice is all it's had and it's fine. Maybe I've been lucky?

As it should be. That is all my 30d gets and it is just fine.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 12:18 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 32):
LOL... I wasn't being serious...

You really never know with you  Wink

Quoting JeffM (Reply 32):
I can say in all honesty that ALL the 20d owners I know, have not had any problems with dust.

Maybe it has something to do with the people instead of the camera??
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 33):
Maybe it has something to do with the people instead of the camera??

Might be... I always switch my camera off before changing the lenses, although I have seen others performing lens changes with the camera still powered up (I assume the sensor will attract more dust when it is powered up, I cannot remember where I read it, maybe someone else can confirm?).

PS: I know that the camera has to be powered up during a cleaning operation, but you would - normally - do this in a cleaner environment than out there in the field...

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 34):
PS: I know that the camera has to be powered up during a cleaning operation, but you would - normally - do this in a cleaner environment than out there in the field...

Out in the field is a lot cleaner then here in my room Big grin!!

I am not sure if the sensor is powered at all when not pressing the shutter, or when cleaning mode is active!
But if it is, then it attracks more dust like any other electrical equipment.

The only moment I had my power on without a lens or lenscab was with cleaning the sensor, like they said in the manual  Wink (The first manual I have ever read)
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 12:42 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 33):
Maybe it has something to do with the people instead of the camera??

This is certainly true and I have seen people with their lens off for an unnecessarily long length of time.. A lens change should be a quick operation with your back to the wind if outdoors and the camera switched off. Yesterday I saw someone blowing the inside of their lens chamber as there was a bit of muck on the focusing screen ! The shutter should have kept the sensor covered, but I wonder what the inside of that camera was like !

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 6:59 am

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 30):
Hiya Kevin, hasn't the Olympus got some sort of self-clean for the sensor?

Hi Tim

Yes they use a wave filter that cleans the sensor when the camera is first powered on. The dust falls on to a sticky tape below the sensor, it works a treat.

cheers

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 32):
If you say so. But there are a bunch of cameras that cost more then a simple 20d or 30d. $1500 bucks for a camera is not "top of the line" by any means. Maybe for here.

Of course there are better cameras, just like there are better cars, but you get the idea. If you'd gone out and spent a fair bit of money on what should be a decent product, you'd expect it to live up to expectations.

Quoting BigSkyBirds (Reply 37):
Yes they use a wave filter that cleans the sensor when the camera is first powered on. The dust falls on to a sticky tape below the sensor, it works a treat.

I thought I'd seen that somewhere. It sounds like a nice idea - I wonder if it is something Canon and Nikon will latch onto?

Regards,

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 3:55 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 38):
I thought I'd seen that somewhere. It sounds like a nice idea - I wonder if it is something Canon and Nikon will latch onto?

It may be that they just don't think it that important an issue to their customers, but when ever I discuss cameras with other photographers the dust issue always comes up. As for those new to digital SLR's they are terrified of dust and what they may have to do to remove it.

regards

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 6:20 pm

I'm not sure why your 30D has that problem...or for that matter everyone's "brand new" 20Ds. Normally, those cameras are sealed up tight at the factory and nothing can get into the box.

When I got my 20d, I had no dust whatsoever. Same with my two Mark IIns.

For what it's worth, don't change lenses with the camera on. I have one Mark IIn that looks like someone threw a handful of sand into it. Shooting anything over f/4 looks really bad.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 10:37 pm

Quoting Chrisair (Reply 40):
I'm not sure why your 30D has that problem...or for that matter everyone's "brand new" 20Ds. Normally, those cameras are sealed up tight at the factory and nothing can get into the box.

The problem with the Canon's is they appear not to be assembled in a clean air enviroment hence more dust issues than other makes.
 
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 10:55 pm

Well I am with the British contingent here - everyone I know who has or has had a 20D comments about the dust problem, from the moment they took it out of the box.

I have also noticed that my 20D picks up any old cr*p very easily, even when I take great care to switch lenses. This was never such an issue with the 300D. Trying to clean my sensor is a sure fire way to increase my blood pressure, because that always seems to introduce some further foreign matter on to the sensor, even with fluid and pads. I end up having to try 5 or 6 times before I am even half content - I hate it.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Sun May 07, 2006 11:15 pm

My D30 is a legend in terms of dust, I bought it in 2002 and had the camera sensor cleaned once by Canon for one large dust spot soon after I got it but ever since the sensor has not bee cleaned once and it has been used extensively between 2002 and 2006

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Mon May 08, 2006 12:45 am

I had far fewer dust issues with my 10D, but I do remember reading the 20D had a smaller chamber than the 10D and more mirror slap which resulted in more dust.

The one good thing to come from all this is that I have become an expert sensor cleaner, except for the returned 30D which had dust under the filter as well as on top.

cheers

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Mon May 08, 2006 3:30 am

Hi everyone
I´ve got an 20D...sorry,I´ve got a desert with less than 1 year.The camera was cleaned by CANON for 2 times,but the problem is there yet.
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Mon May 08, 2006 11:44 pm

I don't know whats going on here. If you think that I wasn't joking then you need to get a life.

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Mon May 08, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting BigSkyBirds (Thread starter):
Boy what a suprise[sic], Canon really do ensure you get you monies worth of dust included in the price.

Next time buy Nikon. [Just joking].
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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Tue May 09, 2006 12:22 am

My 20D was fine out of the box (or maybe I didn't notice it). It did eventually gather a hell of a lot of dust (as Psych will testify!).

I cleaned it using Pec pads and Eclipse fluid a couple of months ago and am very careful when changing the lens. It seems to be holding out well so far!

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RE: A New 30D Comes With Free Dust

Thu May 11, 2006 10:04 pm

Apart from marking the sensor with my blower (which took Canon 5 minutes to swab out)... I'm pretty happy with the lack of dust in the 20D of late.

Best way to spot even the smallest dust spots is to:

1. Shoot a clear blue sky at f22, focus infinity
2. Take the shot and equalise it in photoshop

I have attached three weeks worth of dust in the following shot to illustrate how clean the 30D after about 6 days of shooting over the three weeks.



I've uploaded this to Imageshack due to it being a full resolution image and to reduce bandwidth for Airliners.net  

Not too many blemishes  

This is a Nikon D100 shot I took. I can't vouch for when it was cleaned, and given that it wasn't taken at f22, some of the dust may be hidden.



I'll admit, not exactly an identical comparison, but I know I've never seen that much dust in either of my Canon's.

Glenn

Edit: Just check my aperture on the above 30D shot. Turns out I used f8.0 - bugger. But even at f8.0 you should be able to see most of the spots.
http://img97.imageshack.us/exifize.p...ename=img97/1696/20060506_1141.jpg

[Edited 2006-05-11 15:16:33]
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