777MechSys
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Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 9:02 am

Quick crop question. First, let's play pretend. Pretend the this photo isn't backlit, not grainy, and while we are at it everything is sharp.

Emirates took delivery of another 777-300 ER last month. I was ready to get some pictures of the delivery flight. Well the wind started to shift and the tower cleared them to 34L instead of 16R. I hurried to the other end of the runway. The only spot you can get photos is on the east side of the runway. So the sun was on the wrong side. I couldn't resist taking a couple of shots with bad conditions. I just want to know if all was good what would be the best crop? How far back should the crop go?


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Just curious in case I happen to be at the right place at the right time.

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Erick
 
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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 9:22 am

Erick
If you want this sort of a crop i would crop to include the whole title you cut of the E in emirates.
Who said Back lit shots wont make it in if they are in good quality back lit shots still have a place in the DB so do what you can and see how you go.
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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 9:24 am

Almost fill the frame vertically, and that determines how much of the fuselage gets in.

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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 9:45 am

OK, let's pretend all those things are OK.
The crop..Alan and Peter have given two different answers, certainly if you are going to show as much as you do, you need to include the whole of the title, or as Peter said cut it off and vertically fill(almost) the frame and let the horizontal look after itself.

Having said that to my eye, the composition is unbalanced, that long length of aircraft supported only by the nose gear, just looks wrong to me. Others may disagree.

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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 1):
Who said Back lit shots wont make it in if they are in good quality back lit shots still have a place in the DB so do what you can and see how you go.

I know they can get in but mine is kinda bad. The top of the fuselage is overexposed.  ashamed 

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 1):
you cut of the E in emirates.

Yeah I was too close to the runway plus he just started his takeoff roll. I am lucky I got him in the frame.  cheerful 
 
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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 12:45 pm

Quoting 777MechSys (Thread starter):
Pretend the this photo isn't backlit

Okay - I can pretend. But I'll say now that restrictive and ordinary crops can lead to higher quality requirements. Screening often comes down to a balancing act because some requirements may be reduced only to increase others....

Okay, I'll make it clear with an example:

Quality required for a standard every day airline is normal.
Quality required for a common every hour airline is high.
Quality required for a rare aircraft is lowered.

I can pretend, but a crop like the above really would require fairly high quality. Backlit would be unlikely to cut the mustard.

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Okay, back to pretending....

The aircraft in this crop needs to be higher. The aircraft isn't centered. IMHO the cut off of the "E" isn't such a big deal though.

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RE: Crop Question

Fri May 12, 2006 3:40 pm

Thanks for pretending. The above photo was straight out of the camera. I didn't crop it. All that was done was a resize as not to be friggin' huge.

I had no intentions of submitting this photo. The nose is rather soft and some nice overexposure. I just wanted some information on cropping a photo that starts out like this. It is a rather boring shot. Best I could do standing so close with an 80-200 lens.

Majority of Boeings delivery flights occur while I am sitting at a desk being a CATIA jockey. I noticed this one was scheduled to leave at 14:30 so I ran out to get some shots. Unfortunately the wind and sun were against me. Honestly, who could resist taking pictures of a brand new shiny 777 before she starts commercial service?
 
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RE: Crop Question

Mon May 15, 2006 4:59 pm

Quoting 777MechSys (Reply 6):
I just wanted some information on cropping a photo that starts out like this. It is a rather boring shot.

I assumed this was the case, hence my fairly open minded (closed eye) reply  cheeky 

Quoting 777MechSys (Reply 6):
Unfortunately the wind and sun were against me.

I hate the wind and sun too! Unless they're being favourable.

Quoting 777MechSys (Reply 6):
Honestly, who could resist taking pictures of a brand new shiny 777 before she starts commercial service?

Can't wait to head to Seattle to do the same!

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