i530j
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Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:15 am






I was shooting at MCO today and got these pics and wanted to know from the others here at a.net yes or no?If no tell me and ill do my best to edit.

P.S im gonna resize them before upload.

Cheers,
Justin

Edited for spelling

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:25 am

First one seems to be cut off.
Second seems okay to me.
Take my advice with a grain of salt because I don't have any photos in the DB.

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:30 am

1) No. Bad motive

2) Has a chance, with proper editing and a little bit of leveling

IMO

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:40 am

Hi Justin,

I like those shots, but I reckon the first one wouldn't make it on here; it's not generally an acceptable motive (although I personally like those sorts of shots).

The 2nd one looks good to me - one problem I see is that you've cropped the tail off; this might not be a problem if you crop tighter outside the engines and raise the aircraft in the frame slightly. Additionally you'll need to give it about 1.5 - 2 degrees of CCW rotation. From a levels point of view the shot could probably do with having them tightened up a bit, and also I think the photo's a bit dark; boost the brightness just a touch, watching out for hotspots.

Cheers

Tom
 
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:21 am

Hello all im j/w why would the first one not be acceptable?


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These look the same but this is just my  twocents 


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Justin
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:23 am

I agree that the first is badmotive, and the second should be able to get to proper quality with good editing, however the blown out details on the nose might give you problems.

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting I530j (Reply 4):

Those include the bottom part of the aircraft and the front gear.

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:28 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 6):

Thanks
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:31 am

Hi Justin,

1) as already stated by others.

2) based on the high voltage pylon (in the background), I would use some 1.8 CCW rotation. It seems that there is also a tiny dust spot (on the right of the vertical stabilizer), maybe two (but my eyes need definitively some sleep now...).
I like the angle, certainly the position of the gear and the way you can see the "forces" acting on the tires because of the turn. A small negative remark is the small portion of the red pole with the aircraft warning lights (although it is in the background, it seems to protrude from the aircraft...). Before pushing the trigger, it is advisable to have a detailed view in your viewfinder on how the picture will look two-dimensionally (on paper/on screen)! When looking through the viewfinder, you see your picture, however, three-dimensionally and then - to the untrained eye - you will not notice that something in the background will interfere with your main subject...

Good luck,

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:39 am

Thanks walter I'm not that good at photoshop so if i give u the photo via email do you think you could help?


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Justin
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:18 pm

Hi Justin,

I am not a specialist either  Smile ! I am learning day by day, by all the good advise in this forum. If you tell me what kind of tool you are using (Photoshop Elements 2, 3 or 4 or Photoshop CS), I could give you some hints of what I would do (I have Photoshop Elements 2 available as well as Photoshop CS (version 8)), but still it is no guarantee to get a shot accepted...

You can e-mail me, of course, and I can see what I can do and I can explain you the steps so that you can do it afterwards and see the effects yourself (because it is your picture)!

Best regards,

Walter
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:03 pm

Here's my job:

Big version: Width: 1023 Height: 682 File size: 521kb
Great Blue Sky


Cw rotation, crop, resize, canvas size, sharpen, curves, brightness.

IMO, you should use your Digital Rebel in Av mode, not in Auto, as there you can set most of the things yourself. Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower. I think, then you'll be in good "hands".  Silly

I'm interested why there's such grain on ISO 100, can it probably be because the photo was shot at 230mm (x 1.6) and there was heat-haze?

At least Justin thread starter, I don't think this picture will make it:

Blurry, over-exposed on nose...

Just my  twocents 

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:40 pm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 11):
Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower. I think, then you'll be in good "hands".

Bad advice. You're telling him to compensate by "two steps" (what are "steps"?) and you have no idea what his shutter speed is or what the scene calls for. He would be better off shooting a test frame or two and adjusting via his histogram.
 
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:58 pm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 11):
Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower.

Oh dear. Why go to all that trouble? And why go for an even bigger aperture than f/7.1 on a sunny day????

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:20 pm

Well Jeff I saw the exif.

Vivion, I use most often f/11-13 on a sunny day. The photo will be sharper with the higher f/.

I do not understand "trouble" here, as bigger f/ = sharper pic. For me, f/7.1 is just nothing... It's really too low number for me.  Silly

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:10 am

Thanks all a lot



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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:31 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
Vivion, I use most often f/11-13 on a sunny day

That is a SMALLER aperture than f/7.1. We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking high or low aperture NUMBERS. I am talking the size of the aperture, i.e. how big or small the HOLE is.
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:59 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
Well Jeff I saw the exif.

Wonderful, but that advice isn't accurate for every instance.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
The photo will be sharper with the higher f/.

Wrong. It only means more will be in focus. Where did you learn about Photography?

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
I do not understand "trouble" here, as bigger f/ = sharper pic. For me, f/7.1 is just nothing... It's really too low number for me.

You can get a sharp image with an aperture of f2.8 The trouble is you are giving lousy advice.
 
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:16 pm

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 18):
don't argue with JeffM, he is perfect and knows everything about everything; especially when it comes to photography and cameras.

Actually, I was agreeing with him!

What I do not agree with is your gratuitous and unfounded sarcasm, but I'm sure that Jeff will ignore it.
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:26 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 16):
That is a SMALLER aperture than f/7.1. We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking high or low aperture NUMBERS. I am talking the size of the aperture, i.e. how big or small the HOLE is.

Sorry, I was talking about the size of the number. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

-David.

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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:31 am

Aero145,

Great shot!
 
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RE: Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:43 pm

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 20):
Aero145,

Great shot!

 Confused

What shot? Are you maybe trying to make a fool of me because of my misunderstanding?

At least, there was no shot.

-David

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