GertLOWG
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Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:29 pm

Hello!

Is this panning shot good enough for the Data Base? Thank´s for your help!

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 507kb


Best Regards!
 
eadster
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:45 pm

Hey good attempt.

It has a fair amount of grain in the trees and grass plus it is a tad soft.

With a bit more work it may do ok.

Good attempt - I'd be pleased with that regardless of it being accepted or not.
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:20 pm

Panning is a very hard thing to master, you have done a good job here but as mentioned the photo suffers from a good deal of noise (grain) and is far too soft, it also need lightening up and some contrast.

I think it's one for the personal collection but don't be down about it your certainly on the way to nailing a good panning photo. I think also a little sunshine helps, but often that can't be helped. Good effort.
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:34 pm

What's with this one? I think it's a bit soft but when applying mor USM the Boeing markes tend to look oversharpened.

Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 851 File size: 300kb


Thanks for your comments!

Georg
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:46 pm

Georg if you sharpen using a new layer you can the erase the over sharpened bit like the titles and boeing stamp and still keep the rest of the photo nice and sharp. Try it  Smile
 
eadster
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:25 pm

Second is a much better attempt, but the jaggies around the top of the cockpit windows needs to go. Other than that, good shot.

If it gets too difficult to edit, try a smaller size like 1024.
 
D L X
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:33 pm

The second one is better, but it's generally oversharpened. If using more USM makes it look oversharpened, use less.  Smile Or use it differently. Try a really high number like 400%, coupled with a really small radius, like .2 or .3 .
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:45 pm

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 4):
Try it

Never tried that layer thing as it's too complicated for me. Time to sit down and learn more about Photoshop.

Quoting D L X (Reply 6):
Try a really high number like 400%, coupled with a really small radius, like .2 or .3

I always use threshold of 0.2

Quoting Eadster (Reply 5):
If it gets too difficult to edit, try a smaller size like 1024.

May try this.

Thanks guys.

Georg
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:50 pm

It's quite simple (has to be if I can do it) just go to the "layer" drop down menu and click on duplicate layer, do your sharpening and then use your erasor tool to 'rub out' the jaggies and then in the layer drop down select "merge layers" and your done.If you need any further help give me a shout  Smile
 
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:55 pm

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 8):

I try later.

Here's the unsharpened but still 1200 pix pic - maybe you want to try yourself.

Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 851 File size: 279kb


Georg
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:13 pm

Here's my humble attempt at it.Im sure there are people far better than me that will scoff at it,but the sharpening is much better. It is suffering a little form noise or grain which maybe dropping it down to 1024 wide will help erase.
Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 851 File size: 315kb
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 8):
If you need any further help give me a shout

Here it is.

I haven't done it before and will also ask in a German Photoshop Forum how to use it in a propper way.

Working with my unsharpened pic what do I do step by step?

1. duplicate layer?
2. sharpen
3. eraser
4. merge

or in other order?

Thanks for your help!

Georg
 
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:58 am

Ok, using photoshop CS2 I do basically the following. I first sharpen the image once at the following settings:
amount 200%
Radius 0.2
Thrshold 0
then I create a duplicate layer using the "layer" drop down menu and selecting "duplicate layer" and pressing ok to the "background layer" already chosen for you.

Then I sharpen the image using the same settings as above until I am happy that it is nice and sharp.This will creat jaggies in certain areas, especially door frames, titles and wing leading edges etc.I then select my erasor tool from the main tool menu (looks like an erasor you used at school) and simply rub out the jaggies.

Once this is done to my satisfaction I then in the "layer" drop down menu select "flatten Image" and your done.Hope this is ok for you.

This is what works for me and has given me a great acceptance percentage, I hope it works well for you too.

(Phew I better get a RR for this  praise   duck  )
 
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 12):

Thanks I'll start editing in a few seconds.

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 12):
Phew I better get a RR for this

When the pic is accepted  Wink

Georg
 
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:04 am

You mean Ive gota wait two weeks!!! Just kidding,glad to be of some help,hope it work out for you.  Smile
 
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:02 am

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 14):
You mean Ive gota wait two weeks!!!

Hhhmmmmmm, two weeks....I'm very lazy with uploading  Wink

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 12):
I then in the "layer" drop down menu select "flatten Image" and your done

My Problem, I've a German version and flatten doesn't match with my dictionary and my menu.

Here's a screenshot of my menu.
Big version: Width: 800 Height: 463 File size: 144kb


What exactly shall I use? is there a shortkey?

Thanks for your help very much mate.

Georg
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:21 am

Hey Georg,
It's the second from bottom one in the menu on your screen shot, hope this helps you  Smile Oh and no there is not a short key sorry  Smile
 
GertLOWG
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:40 pm

Thanks for the answers. I reworked the picture, but I think it is not better than the first one.
The quality is really very low.


[Edited 2006-06-22 13:43:20]
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 16):

Thank you very much! I'll post the result (rejection/acception) here.

Georg
 
globalpics
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:46 am

No worries, hope it helped you out, good luck  Smile
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:28 am

Just found it's way into the Queue one minute ago.

Georg
 
GertLOWG
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:16 pm

Hello!

What do you think about this panning shot. I made this photo two months ago in AMS. Thanks for your help!



[Edited 2006-06-25 10:17:49]
 
jorge1812
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RE: Panning Shot, Good Enough?

Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:02 pm

Quoting GertLOWG (Reply 21):

Not so much panning but a nice shot. Only problem the jaggies. Try editing with layers like Globalpics pointed out very good. I'm also not very sure about leveling.

Georg

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