javibi
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Is There A Way To Save This One?

Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:26 pm

Quality rejection:
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 695 File size: 184kb
Badquality


It was shot at 1/25 seconds, due to the low light present.

Any opinions about what should be changed are welcome.

Thanks.

j
 
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Kukkudrill
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:34 pm

That is a gorgeous photo.

In a.net terms, perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft though in the case of the nose it's probably due to reflections on the fuselage curvature.
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timdegroot
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:52 pm

Acceptable although I would crop a little to the bottom and left if quality allows.

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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:14 am

Hola Javier!
A really nice capture. But you might want to clean it also before reuploading it. Might increase your chances to have shot a picture instead of a rejection  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536874390/1151680268HAHCoS.jpg
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:19 am

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
That is a gorgeous photo.

Absolutely. Well done, Javier! (Again!)

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
In a.net terms, perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft

Why does this matter? A beautiful photograph is a beautiful photograph. A "perfect" photograph isn't always beautiful.

This is the kind of shot that will sell prints.

[Edited 2006-06-30 17:19:56]
 
aero145
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:19 am

Nice capture Javier, a really nice addition to the DB - that is, if it'll pass...

But - when will you start uploading in 1000x667 pixels??  Wow!  Wink

It has helped me often with quality rejections...

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javibi
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:37 am

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 2):
I would crop a little to the bottom and left



Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 3):
you might want to clean it

Thanks to all who posted  Smile

Better?
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 429kb
Badquality take two

Any problems?

j
 
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ptrjong
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:50 am

Yes I like the crop better.

Peter  Smile
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:57 am

Absolutly beautiful picture! I love it. I like this crop better and you've tidied it up, so i think it should be accepted and will be a great addition to the database.

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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
Why does this matter? A beautiful photograph is a beautiful photograph. A "perfect" photograph isn't always beautiful.

I agree. The recent Air International photo competition was an eye-opener: in a.net terms most of the winning photos were bad quality, bad distance, bad motive, bad grainy ...

But as long as you're uploading to a.net, then the a.net criteria have to matter. And to be fair, a.net's criteria are what stop a.net from becoming like a military aviation desktop photo website that I came across a while ago - full of mediocre photos possessing neither technical quality nor artistic merit. Unless perhaps one considers an F-18 flying in formation with a squadron of dust spots to be artistic.
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:58 am

Javier, as usual... Amazing picture... I think it can definitely be saved... Why don't you post the original picture?

PS: I have to ask you some questions on the next time you will be here in Argentina...
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:08 pm

Hello Javier.

I always enjoy looking at your rejections - so often they are lovely photographs, as is this one. I also admire the way so many of your shots 'test' the boundaries of the A.net criteria, and I would like to think the screeners enjoy having to consider your shots very carefully.

For me, with a screener's hat on, the first thing that struck me was the 'dirt', so I am pleased to see that those areas have gone in the second posted version. I think the crop now gives you more chance of success too. I am guessing it is not possible, but I would have liked to have see the far right corner of the runway, just to make it complete  wink . But it is a lovely photo nonetheless, and I think the heat-hazed background makes it very atmospheric.

A couple of very minor points: can you give the port wing a little extra sharpening? There is very slight softness there, and with the nav light. Also are there very small jaggies on that left, highlighted side of the fuselage? Look what the screeners have done to me - I am becoming as picky as them  biggrin .

You must give it another go and I will have my fingers crossed for you.

Take good care.

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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:21 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
Also are there very small jaggies on that left, highlighted side of the fuselage? Look what the screeners have done to me - I am becoming as picky as them .

Thats also the last small prob I see here ... , but give it another try ... - good Luck !  airplane 

Great capture @ 1/20s !

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javibi
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:37 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
I would like to think the screeners enjoy having to consider your shots very carefully.

I doubt it very much.

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
I am becoming as picky as them

You really are picky! Big grin

New version taking into account all your suggestions is already in the queue; the merit will be yours if it is accepted, thank you very much to all!!!

Cheers

j
 
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:49 am

I am intrigued by now that was taken at 1/25th of a second, I would have thought that an aircraft travelling at about 150/160mph at that point would have produced far more movement, and probably a more blurred aircraft...not a critisism, merely an observation...
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:25 am

Quoting Tonyosborne (Reply 14):
I am intrigued by now that was taken at 1/25th of a second, I would have thought that an aircraft travelling at about 150/160mph at that point would have produced far more movement, and probably a more blurred aircraft...not a critisism, merely an observation...

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Absolutely right, but we know what IS does and I am pretty sure Javier fired some frames away while moving perhaps his cam some mlms up - as he knows what he is doing. We all know : some shots turn out some not while trying to blur it ....

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javibi
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:55 pm

Quoting Rotate (Reply 15):
I am pretty sure Javier fired some frames away while moving perhaps his cam some mlms up

Of course I chased the moving plane, otherwise it would have been blurred... the result is a somehow blurred background, I wonder if that was partly the reason for the quality rejection...

Cheers

j
 
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:37 pm


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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:39 pm

Well done mate. Congrats on getting this great shot in the database! Beautiful picture!

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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:58 pm

Yes good to see. It's the latest in my Album!
 
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RE: Is There A Way To Save This One?

Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:03 am

You've got it Javier!!!

As usual  Wink

Congratulations

Enrique

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