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What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:30 am

Hi,

This is probably not a particularly popular subject and has probably been discussed a lot before, but nevertheless:

What is being done about the increasingly slow upload queue? The time in the queue is increasing and perhaps the interest in uploading may then decrease. Are there any new procedures coming to take care of this?

One thing is perhaps to start rejecting on the ground that similar shots have been produced by another photographer. Who needs loads of similar shots on similar dates granted only because they are taken by different photographers?

Any other thoughts on this probably "hot" subject?

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Navigator (Thread starter):

Hi Stefan,

Happy Birthday! Big grin

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the queue is always high this time of year, naturally here in the Northern Hemisphere it is summer so many guys are out shooting and uploading. I wouldn't worry. If you have a shot that has priority it will get looked at sooner otherwise what's the rush? It's a good excuse for me to look at my pics in the queue and decide if I still want to improve them or delete them. Take a chill pill. I'm sure more trainee screeners have been approached.  Wink  Big grin
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:52 am

I do not see this as a seasonal problem and I am not particularly worried myself, more than that I think it is a problem for a:net. Perhaps Jethotos and other sites will be more popular in future if this problem (because it is a problem) is not handled. How do you think this could be handled? Do three screeners need to look at all photos? Isn´t every one of the screeners able to make judgments on their own?

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:59 am

Stefan

The queue has only recently been going up again. Several factors contribute to the increasing queue now.

-very hot weather in parts of Europe (where most of our screeners are). Usually I close my curtains during the afternoon and do some screening, with 30+ degree weather I'm not gonna do that 

-Worldcup! very little screening before, during, and after game time.

-Lots of uploads due nice weather, airshows, holidays etc.

We are doing the best we can and have just hired two new screeners, Mick Bajcar and Ben Wang who are doing great. We hope to add more new guys in the near future to tackle the increasing uploads. You will also notice we will be instant adding far more photos (I have asked Johan to develop an script where you will see that in your acceptance email too).

Also have to put a little responsibility with the uploaders though. A higher queue affects everyone, so you might want to not upload all 100 approachshots from a day at AMS, LHR or FRA at once at the moment. Yes, we as screeners are responsible for a low queue, but photographers can bear with us as well. A low queue is a two way process. Some variety in screening can also work wonders. It's really tedious going through a batch of 50 of the exact same shots except for the reg. Some variety coupled with quality provides a better screening experience, and will I think results in more motivation for screeners, and thus more screening ->lower queue. Personally I love instant adding 3-4 photos from the best photographers on a.net who usually upload in small batches with lots of variety and great quality. Just something to think about.



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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:30 am

Quoting Navigator (Thread starter):
What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Delete those pics in the queue of uploaders who complain???  Wink


Just kidding though. Seriously, as Tim says, batch uploads of 50+ of the same side shot could become tedious. Variety is the spice of life.

I have a reasonable idea now of what the site will accept - and if it's not up to those criteria - then I won't bother uploading, as it just bloats the queue and wastes the screener's time. Looking back at my first upload, it should have been rejected for bad levelling  Wink

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:32 am

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):
It's really tedious going through a batch of 50 of the exact same shots except for the reg.

Maybe a way forward would be to impose an upload limit of say, 10 photos per day, in addition to existing upload limits. Personally, I never come home with more than five cracking shots that I need to upload right the same evening.

This way, we'll probably become more selective in what we upload, and also spend more time per upload, which will probably improve quality.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):
Also have to put a little responsibility with the uploaders though. A higher queue affects everyone, so you might want to not upload all 100 approach shots from a day at AMS, LHR or FRA at once at the moment. Yes, we as screeners are responsible for a low queue, but photographers can bear with us as well

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... and I also appreciate the screeners' effort to contribute in this forum with the help of a pre-screening and very good advise, which also reduces the queue (sometimes with an immediate effect, but certainly with an effect in the future)!

PS: Personally, I don't mind a long queue, it gives me the time to review, ask questions about the pictures, and in most cases ample time to pull something from the queue!

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:40 am

Upload and forget. Unless there is some reason for fast screening, then there isn't a problem. At this time of year, as has been said, there are people on holiday, the World Cup reared it's ugly head and so has has Wimbledon!  vomit 

Added to this the fact that many people are out taking pics and uploading like mad, and you get the slower seeming queue.

Hold some in reserve for a rainy day and maybe surprise us all.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:19 am

Quoting Navigator (Thread starter):
Any other thoughts on this probably "hot" subject?

No thoughts, as the queue is cyclic, leave it be, it will be fine. Just one question though....

What's your rush?
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:27 am

I don't understand, and find it fairly rude, when I see people saying things like "What's being done about the slow queue", as though the photographers are paying customers and Airliners.net OWES them anything liek an excuse or solution for service that you don't feel is quick enough.

Granted, the photographers are what make this site so popular and profitable, but if the queue is slow, deal with it. No one from staff is obligated to revamp or implement new ideas to necessarily speed it up. It gets busy sometimes, and you wait a couple more days.

Does the slow queue disappoint me sometimes? Of course. But asking questions like that is insulting and inappropriate.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:28 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
Maybe a way forward would be to impose an upload limit of say, 10 photos per day, in addition to existing upload limits.

There are plenty of restrictions and upload limits right now. Let's not complicate things further.

I tend to upload photos in groups. I'll do two or three days of spotting, process a batch of photos and upload them. I may only upload photos once a month to a.net, but when I do I upload a dozen or more at a time.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
What's your rush?

There's no big "rush" to get the photos screened - but in retrospect what would you think if all of your photos were still in the queue, Jeff? Kinda puts it in perspective!
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:30 am

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 10):
There's no big "rush" to get the photos screened - but in retrospect what would you think if all of your photos were still in the queue, Jeff?

My photos go through the same as everyone else's. I have not uploaded any in about a month. Personally I don't care if they get screened in 3 hours or 3 weeks.

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 10):
Kinda puts it in perspective!

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:07 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 9):
I don't understand, and find it fairly rude, when I see people saying things like "What's being done about the slow queue", as though the photographers are paying customers and Airliners.net OWES them anything liek an excuse or solution for service that you don't feel is quick enough.

Granted, the photographers are what make this site so popular and profitable, but if the queue is slow, deal with it. No one from staff is obligated to revamp or implement new ideas to necessarily speed it up. It gets busy sometimes, and you wait a couple more days.

Does the slow queue disappoint me sometimes? Of course. But asking questions like that is insulting and inappropriate.

IMHO Navigator asked a reasonable question which was carefully worded and he did acknowledge that it was "probably not a particularly popular subject and has probably been discussed a lot before". Tim de Groot's reply was likewise reasonable, measured and informative and put over some good points which it helps to repeat from time to time.

Why the hostile overtones? Why is this question 'rude, insulting and inappropriate'?

With the ever growing number of new photographers here there may well be several who are looking at the queue and wondering why it is taking so long for their small allocation of photos to be screened. Question answered  Smile

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:26 pm

There is an easy alternative. Enjoy your summer, shoot what you like, when you like, and upload it later.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:47 pm

Hi all

Johan is not in favour of imposing upload limits............so.............if you ain't happy about the size of the queue.......ship yourself off somewhere else  Smile

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:56 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 14):
Johan is not in favour of imposing upload limits............so.............if you ain't happy about the size of the queue.......ship yourself off somewhere else

I'm not complaining about the queue size, even if I wished it was shorter.
I was trying to adress this:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):
It's really tedious going through a batch of 50 of the exact same shots except for the reg

which is true for screeners and viewers alike as far as I'm concerned. However, forget my little unthoughtful proposal as I can see it's not going to work.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:24 pm

Quoting Navigator (Thread starter):
The time in the queue is increasing and perhaps the interest in uploading may then decrease.

...Hence solving your problem.  Wink
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:32 pm

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 12):
With the ever growing number of new photographers here there may well be several who are looking at the queue and wondering why it is taking so long for their small allocation of photos to be screened.

Let them wonder. Or let them see the reality. Surely it can't be that hard to understand the process. With the number of photos submited, it just takes time.

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 12):
Question answered

If you say so.

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 12):
IMHO Navigator asked a reasonable question which was carefully worded and he did acknowledge that it was "probably not a particularly popular subject and has probably been discussed a lot before".

It has. And if Navigator had taken the time to do a simple search and read through all the previous responses, he would have got the answer he wanted without even having to 'carefully word' this worn out question yet again. But he didn't.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:11 pm

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):

Thank you Tim for your nice reply. I understand and appreciate your efforts to shorten the queue. I also appreciate your great work in this respect.

And to some of the rest of you criticising me for even taking up this matter, have a nice summer! I still think this question is worthwhile asking. I hope you did your best in trying to give fair and relevant answers even if I will not reply to you individually.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:42 am

Stefan

As an ex-screener you will know what we have to go through in the queue.

Yes, worthwhile asking, again, so let's hope it's been answered for you.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:31 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
Maybe a way forward would be to impose an upload limit of say, 10 photos per day

For the record, I thought this was a good idea, so you're not alone.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
What's your rush?

It's a different ballgame when you have a low queue limit versus a high one. Those of you fortunate enough to have high ones will be less afflicted by a long wait. For those of us with low limits, it may take two weeks to find out that a shot was close but not quite, then another two weeks to find out whether the correction was good. In the meantime, your queue is full, so you can't upload a different shot.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 11):
Personally I don't care if they get screened in 3 hours or 3 weeks.

I'm not being at all glib when I say "good for you" - if you truly don't care how long your pics are in the queue, more power to ya. However, what's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander. In other words, the fact that the queue length doesn't bother you doesn't make others' complaints any weaker. People feel what they feel.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:02 am

And then there are some of us that have the flu and it is difficult screening with a pounding head ache and watering eyes so have taken a break. I will get back to screening as soon as I can.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:24 am

Quoting Granite (Reply 14):
Johan is not in favour of imposing upload limits............so.............if you ain't happy about the size of the queue.......ship yourself off somewhere else

 irked This gets me really angry when a crew member says "If you don't like something bugger off". Why not try and talk sensibly about how it COULD be overcome. Not tell users to nick off if they don't like something. Just remember without users there is no site.

Some people are going to have an issue about the Q limits. That's just a fact. I personally don't. I don't mind when things get screened as I know it will happen sometime. But I also ask the question on what is being done about it? Because lets face it, there are more and more photos being uploaded. The recent Q limits have not helped in anyway, so is there a "plan B"?
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:32 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 22):
This gets me really angry when a crew member says "If you don't like something bugger off".

Johan would hardly be classified as a "simple" crew member. It's his playground, he makes the rules. Simple isn't it?

Quoting Eadster (Reply 22):
Why not try and talk sensibly about how it COULD be overcome.

Why? He doesn't have to.

Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
For those of us with low limits, it may take two weeks to find out that a shot was close but not quite,

There is a solution to that problem you know?
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:13 am

Read the quote Jeff - It was not directed at Johan.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 24):
Read the quote Jeff - It was not directed at Johan.

No kidding?  Yeah sure

I understand it was Granite quoting Johan's policy. Same message, different messenger.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):
A low queue is a two way process. Some variety in screening can also work wonders. It's really tedious going through a batch of 50 of the exact same shots except for the reg. Some variety coupled with quality provides a better screening experience, and will I think results in more motivation for screeners, and thus more screening ->lower queue.

Is a pity that Tim's point has not been discussed much further, but then not a real surprise as the "serial uploaders" likely do not read this forum.
In addition to taking the fun out out of screening, multiples of the sames shots with different reg. takes a lot of the enjoyment out of looking at the new uploads, for me anyway. I have gotten in the habit of looking at the days top uploaders and if certain names are there I will give viewing a miss for a day or so.

Having said that I appreciate this is a DB and each to their own.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:06 am

I agree with you Phil, it is beating a dead horse to keep raising the queue question. Personally the queue doesn't really bother me, but I do wish the wait was a bit shorter.

If the Quick Adds increase, and the screening team grows - the queue will go down over time. For now it's two weeks - just accept it folks!

We all like to see our photos online. If you're in a very big hurry, set up your own site so you can show your work to your friends / clients / etc.

Screeners are doing a good job at this point, and I hope they keep up the good work.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:48 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 23):
There is a solution to that problem you know?

Yup. Daily queue limits.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:00 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 28):
Yup. Daily queue limits.

Nope.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:19 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 14):
ship yourself off somewhere else

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:44 pm

The best way to reduce the queue is for each of us to exercise some self-restraint and to upload only our best shots after rigorous self-screening.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:59 pm

Hi all

Quoting Viv (Reply 31):
The best way to reduce the queue is for each of us to exercise some self-restraint and to upload only our best shots after rigorous self-screening

Best thing written so far.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:06 pm

Peter

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 30):
Pride goes before a fall.

Don't worry, I won't be falling anytime soon  Wink

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:29 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 33):
I won't be falling anytime soon

its true. he has the best zimmer money can buy.... Big grin

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:46 pm

Quoting Eadster (Reply 22):
Just remember without users there is no site.

With 35k plus I don't think Johan worries about that.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 22):
But I also ask the question on what is being done about it? Because lets face it, there are more and more photos being uploaded.

I think there isn't much you can do about it. As I said in a previous thread, I think (or assume) there's a lack of possible screener candidates. Not much you can do about that I guess.

Just wait and see how your photos are doing.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:00 pm

I haven't screened for a week now and won't for a few days to come. I'm currently moving house and half my stuff is in one house, the rest in the other. My computer is in the new house, but my furniture is not (yet). I don't like screening having to sit on the floor.  Smile And I don't have the time at the moment anyway (painting, cleaning, etc.).

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting INNflight (Reply 35):
I think (or assume) there's a lack of possible screener candidates

Really??? I doubt that very much.  Smile What I find perculiar is that someone with 30 or so pics in the database and not much experience can be asked to screen whereas someone with a lot of experience and ten times more pics in the database can be overlooked.  Wink
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:37 pm

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 37):
What I find perculiar is that someone with 30 or so pics in the database and not much experience can be asked to screen

Really? When did this happen?  

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:39 pm

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 37):
What I find perculiar is that someone with 30 or so pics in the database and not much experience can be asked to screen whereas someone with a lot of experience and ten times more pics in the database can be overlooked.

In relation to the topic of the thread, this is the reddest of red herrings.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:52 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 33):
Don't worry,

Its not about you, more about how a few of the crew think about customer relationship.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:45 pm

Hi all

Some tips for photographers to help reduce the queue:

1. Don't upload a batch of 50 at a time.
2. Avoid bad cloning.
3. Don't clone in new registriations onto aircraft (Yes, it's been done)
4. Don't upload triples and ask the screeners to choose (Yes it happens)
5. Don't upload and ask us to add to Myaviation and not Airliners.net.

Remember, images will get screened. No worries.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:47 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 41):
4. Don't upload triples and ask the screeners to choose
5. Don't upload and ask us to add to Myaviation and not Airliners.net.

 rotfl   rotfl 
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 31):
The best way to reduce the queue is for each of us to exercise some self-restraint and to upload only our best shots after rigorous self-screening.

And how are you going to get the word out to those that don't read this forum that they should show restraint?

This is the Tragedy of the Commons, except in this case, there is the power to do something about it.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 29):
Nope.
Uploading only worthy images = more acceptances = Larger upload allowance.

A jerkish response that doesn't deal with the problem. The problem is a monster-ass queue, that my piddly 10 uploads every 2 weeks have little impact on, regardless of their quality. And I don't even use all 10.
 
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:22 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 43):
And how are you going to get the word out to those that don't read this forum that they should show restraint?

I'm not. The queue does not bother me. I upload and forget.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:23 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 41):
3. Don't clone in new registriations onto aircraft (Yes, it's been done)
4. Don't upload triples and ask the screeners to choose (Yes it happens)
5. Don't upload and ask us to add to Myaviation and not Airliners.net.

Wow...

I'm still surprised there is a myav AND a.net radio button for uploads. Is this still an issue? It must be tempting for alot of contributors who have borderline or lower quality uploads to try their luck, thus inflating the queue size. I would have thought the limits would have helped though.


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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:26 pm

Quoting Sulman (Reply 45):
It must be tempting for alot of contributors who have borderline or lower quality uploads to try their luck

Apparently they do not learn anything from experience. Strange ...
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:48 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 41):
1. Don't upload a batch of 50 at a time.

Which is basically a self imposed queue limit. Why not change the current upload slot allocation? Cut the numbers down and make them independent from the photos in the database.

Quoting Upload Queue Help:

The number of photos you can have in the upload queue at any one time is dependant on:

  • The acceptance ratio for your last 50 uploads
  • The total number of photos you have in the Airliners.net database

For the acceptance rate on last 50 uploads, the upload queue limits are:

  • Acceptance ratio of 0% to 29%: Queue limit 5.
  • Acceptance ratio of 30% to 49%: Queue limit 10. 10.
  • Acceptance ratio of 50% to 69%: Queue limit 20. 15.
  • Acceptance ratio of 70% to 89%: Queue limit 30. 20.
  • Acceptance ratio more than 89%: Queue limit 50. 25.

Important note: If we do not have stats for your last 50 uploads, your upload queue limit will be 5

If you have photos accepted into our database, your upload queue limit will increase:

  • 0 - 49 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 0.
  • 50-99 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 5.
  • 100-499 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 10.
  • 500-999 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 20.
  • 1000-2999 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 30.
  • more than 2999 photos in our database: Queue limit increased by 50.

The upload queue is setup this way to reward people that pre-screen their photos and do not cause extra work for our already overloaded photo screeners.
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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:06 am

I have to stick my oar in here.

I am becoming more sanguine about what goes on at A.net - life is too short. I still think this is the best site and I still want to be involved but, let's face it, these are only plane photos. These kind of debates all too easily become polarised - people raising questions about the queue length can be pilloried, when it is a completely legitimate question, and screeners can effectively be accused of not pulling their fingers out when, after all, they do this out of the goodness of their hearts and with little apparent adulation.

I upload here because I like to share my photos plus, if I am honest, I like the idea that I have enough skill in an area of life where I can 'pass the test' at the highest level. I would be lying if I said I didn't care that it is now taking 2 weeks for my photos to be looked at. I would prefer 2 hours. You don't need a psychology degree to know that when feedback is immediate it is far more useful and relevant than when delayed. The longer the delay, the less productive it is. I believe that it is not in the interests of the site, the photographers or the viewers to have a long queue. But the screeners also can only be expected to do so much.

Thus - for me - the two key variables are how many uploads are being received, and how many people are available to deal with them. The first involves things like queue limits; the second things like maximising the screening team, whilst at the same time maintaining standards of consistency. These are issues that need to be thought through on an on-going basis, so there seems nothing wrong with some on-going healthy debate. I am sure there are many people with interesting ideas about these issues, worthy of a hearing.

All the best.

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RE: What Is Being Done About The Slow Queue?

Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:01 am

Hi all!

Mathematically seen this issue is quite easy:
if one day's uploads take more than one day to be screened the screening process is too slow.
An example:
if it takes 2 days to screen one day's uploads you'll have a 1 year waiting time for your shots to be screened in a matter of one year.
I guess that would even bother the most convinced people claiming they don't bother about the upload queue.

However we are far from such a long waiting time and reasons as to why it takes somewhat longer right now have been given by the people who know it best: the screeners.

I think the system in place now is just fine as it rewards long time (experienced) uploaders as well as those who do a good self pre-screening and thus have a high acceptance ratio.

Also as soon as the 2 new screeners will have their screening routine and others stop watering their eyes  fever  or moving around houses  boxedin  and not to forget the UK and Dutch screeners returning to their screens as the clouds are eventually covering up the sky up there again  duck  I'm sure the queue will decrease ever so fast.  Wink

So why not just go out, enjoy the sun and shoot what you can while the weather is so nice and the days so long in the convidence that better days for the upload queue will surely come.  Smile

Cheers,

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