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Overcast Conditions. Would These Be OK?

Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:04 pm

A good morning to fellow aviation snappers!

I was out at Manchester yesterday on a very dark, blustery and sometimes wet afternoon. I wouldn't normally venture out in those conditions but I was taking my brother and family to the airport as they were flying out for their summer hols. Anyway, no point in not taking the camera as I wanted to give my new Sigma 50-500 a run out and get a piccie of them departing.

I got this one of an Excel 737-800 smoking its tyres on touchdown. This was taken at ISO 200, f/9 @ 1/400, 420mm in far from ideal conditions. I've done a quick edit but wanted a bit of advice please as I don't normally shoot under these conditions, and since having that bit more reach, never tried this type of shot. First thing, is this level? The runway is uphill at this point so I've checked the vertical lines on the hangar in the background and they are about right to me, maybe needing a slight rotate clockwise? So I can include the winglet (it was a tight shot!) I can't rotate it by much. Also, I know the aircraft is not fully central horizontally, its a bit to the right, but again I wanted to include the winglet. Would this be acceptable in terms of centring? I know its a little dark, but that's because of the conditions. Is it too dark?

This is them departing. Again, not ideal conditions but do you think this is acceptable?

Any comments on these photo's would be appreciated.

Happy snapping!


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RE: Overcast Conditions. Would These Be OK?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:30 pm

Hi Darren

strange that no one replied to your post so far... Those are two really nice pics! The conditions were indeed not very nice but under the circumstances those shots are absolutely great. That lens will certainly give you a lot of very nice beautiful-weather pics.

For the 737 centering looks OK to me, it's a very balanced picture, but I would suggest a slight CCW rotation perhaps rather than CW. Haven't tried though. The darkness is in my view OK. Perhaps the titles can use an extra bit of sharpness. The 767 might need some extra sharpness as well, but I have plenty of soft/sharp rejections and at at 56% acceptance ratio, I might not be the most reliable adviser for anything  Wink ...

For both, I would make my upload depend on the number of shots already in the db. If there are dozens of shots already for these registrations, then your chances might be slim; else, my humble opinion would be that these are very worthy additions to the db.

All the best!
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RE: Overcast Conditions. Would These Be OK?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:42 pm

The crop on the first one is a bit too tight. The winglet is almost touching the border. Looks like it needs slight CCW, but nothing serious.

If I were you I would not upload these two. Try to catch them again of a day with better weather and leave these for now. If you don't manage to catch these two in nicer conditions, you can always upload them later.

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RE: Overcast Conditions. Would These Be OK?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:54 pm

Bad conditions are not considered a mitigating factor here.

These shots might get in, but if they do it will be on their merits, ignoring the conditions.

I find the crop on the second one too tight - and the main gear is totally black and without detail. Might be fixable with careful use of the Curves tool.
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RE: Overcast Conditions. Would These Be OK?

Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:33 am

Thanks guys, your opinions are much appreciated. The first photo, the 737, this is a brand new aircraft only delivered to XL a couple of weeks ago. I'll see if I can make them any better, and if not, try again on a sunny day! The problem is, the first shot isn't possible on a sunny day generaly because of heat haze.

Thanks again,

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