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Aerial Photography?

Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:54 pm

Has anyone ever done aerial photography? I don't mean for the sake of uploading a shot of a plane landing from above....I mean photographing things on the ground for clients who pay. For example, real estate, construction, legal cases, property sites, etc.

I wonder how to get into this? I don't have a portfolio to show a prospective client, but I do have some photos I've taken from commercial jets showing sites on the ground and also from a couple Cessna rides - just stuff I shot for the heck of it. Is there really a market for these types of photos? How do you even begin to sell your services?

The Cessna 172 is such a great platform for photography with its openable window, slow speed ability, and nearly unobstructed view. I think that to combine a love for photography with a love for flying would be an awesome way to make some money!

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RE: Aerial Photography?

Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:18 pm

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
Has anyone ever done aerial photography? I don't mean for the sake of uploading a shot of a plane landing from above....I mean photographing things on the ground for clients who pay. For example, real estate, construction, legal cases, property sites, etc.

Yes several.

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
I wonder how to get into this?

First get your approval.
In the Netherlands(probably in the rest of the EU too) all aerial photography is prohibited and you need a clearance from the ministry of defense which is valid for one year.

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
The Cessna 172 is such a great platform for photography with its openable window, slow speed ability, and nearly unobstructed view.

Most of my A2G work is done from a 172, it's ok.

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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 1):
In the Netherlands(probably in the rest of the EU too) all aerial photography is prohibited and you need a clearance from the ministry of defense which is valid for one year.

Wow, I didn't know that. Sounds like a relic from the Cold War.

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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 1):
In the Netherlands(probably in the rest of the EU too) all aerial photography is prohibited

Hi Willem

What exactly is prohibited? Surely, you can shoot pictures out of any aircraft you happen to be flying on. Or maybe you can't, but then this law doesn't seem to be enforced?

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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 1):
First get your approval.
In the Netherlands(probably in the rest of the EU too) all aerial photography is prohibited and you need a clearance from the ministry of defense which is valid for one year.

I wonder how they would police that?

It doesn't apply to the UK.
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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting TS (Reply 2):
Wow, I didn't know that. Sounds like a relic from the Cold War.

No it's not like that.
We just have strict privacy protection rules and as far as I know they apply for most western countries.

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
What exactly is prohibited? Surely, you can shoot pictures out of any aircraft you happen to be flying on. Or maybe you can't, but then this law doesn't seem to be enforced?

Prohibited is not allowed Big grin

From regular pax flights nobody will make a problem because you are high and the routes are known.
What I am talking about is the photography of very specific targets at low altitude.
Can't and don't want to be to specific but think about back yards in certain areas with the purpose to spot illegal house extensions, removed trees, waste dump etc.........
These photos are used by the government or any other entitled customer to compare them from time to time which can be ones a year up to ones a month.
Of course in this situation you might by accident shoot things that people don't like very much(neighbours wife naked(with an unknown person) in the back yard for example Big grin )
Well you can think of all the privacy protection things your self.

Then there is a security aspect of course.
First of all you can't fly everywhere you want, think about the queens palace for example or the government buildings.
Secondly there are a whole lot of items you don't want to be published these days think about security positions at various locations, camera's , power stations and so on......

Infect nothing can be published, everything is between you and the customer obviously that's mostly the government.
To be sure of that intelligence(aivd) will run a check(a screening as we call it) on you which will be used by the ministry of defence to give you a clearance or not.
All flight plans will be marked as "photoflight" and filled in advance with the name of the photographer involved.

So all in all it is not like getting in your 172 and go ahead with what ever you like, photography from none as photoflight marked flights is illegal(in our country at least).
Of course I do know that many people just don't bother but be very careful if you do.
It just takes one nasty neighbour pointing at your published photo at A.net(or any other place) and you will find yourself in deep shi............
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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 5):
What I am talking about is the photography of very specific targets at low altitude.

That's sad also. I took some cool photos of South Beach, downtown Miami, and to the thrill of my girlfriend, Ricky Martin's house from a helicopter. Aerial photograph is banned in Israel also. You should see a few of the pics I didn't take, cool stuff.

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
Has anyone ever done aerial photography?

Other then a helicopter from ride South Beach, an ultra lite, in Israel (no pics, a'hem), only with the worlds largest, fastest cameras. AF Avionics Sensors Tech on the SR-71 and RF-4c. Of course, I didn't get to take the pictures  Angry , ony load the sensor and wave bye.
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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 5):
Of course in this situation you might by accident shoot things that people don't like very much(neighbours wife naked(with an unknown person) in the back yard for example Big grin )

D'oh! I knew that was gonna come back and bite me in the ass...
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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:29 am

Well I wrote it down as it strictly taken is but as we say "the soup is never eaten as hot as it is served".
In general it is just a thing of common sense, as long nobody is recognisable and no sensitive places are in view nobody will object.
Having said that the rules did became more stringent due to obvious incidents.

At the time I got clearence for this:

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I am not sure about this specific government building but I do know that others have been taken out Google earth for example and I doubt I would get permission again.

http://www.honders.net/tmp/Sassem_IMG_1974.jpg
Shows the house where I was born, the pond I learned fishing and my elementary school taken because my old neighborhood will be knocked down in the near future.
It is unlikely somebody will have objections against it, just use your common sense.
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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:02 pm

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 8):
Shows the house where I was born, the pond I learned fishing and my elementary school taken because my old neighborhood will be knocked down in the near future.

Looks like a nice place to grow up. Why do they want to demolish it?

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RE: Aerial Photography?

Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:09 pm

Quoting TS (Reply 9):
Looks like a nice place to grow up. Why do they want to demolish it?

Oh yes, I have good memories.
Because the houses are old and not up to modern standards anymore.
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