holl3411
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That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:21 am

Hi Everyone,
Over the last year I've submitted a few images, but I'm still trying for my first acceptance. With this in mind, I headed off to my first Royal International Air Tattoo at Fairford with a newer camera, plenty of memory cards and blind optimism!

Now I'm back and since my sunburn has finally subsided, I've had time to go through a few of the images with a view to submission. I'd really appreciate it if anyone has any thoughts or advice on these images. (My photoshop Elements skills are limited to cropping and leveling, but with my new found desire to avoid the sun  blush , I'm happy to spend some time processing.)

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSCF0961REDA.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/B52_resize-3.jpg

Any comments much apprecaited.

Thanks

Steve
 
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:23 am

Both are out of focus Steve. What camera are you using?
 
holl3411
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:27 am

Fuji S9500, (through a good deal!) as it was mid price in terms of what I could afford/justify.

I've been practising at MAN for the past few months, where it is great, but panning on 24L isn't quite the same as catching a display.  Smile
 
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Holl3411 (Thread starter):
My photoshop Elements skills are limited to cropping and leveling

Believe me, the more you get right in camera the easier it is and the less editing you need to do. Just check your camera settings to make sure they are at the optimum levels. Both photo's look pretty grainy too. Do you have the camera set to the finest image quality setting?
 
holl3411
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:53 am

Fair point. The Fuji is not so good when you go fully "manual" as it still tries to be clever with suggested settings (it is still basically a Point and Shoot) therefore you end up fighting against it.

I tend to end up using the auto settings as much as it grates with me, but set to what seem to be the most appropriate variables. It's normally set to the highest quality setting (9Mb Fine), but if I'm struggling on the zoom I have to crop down heavily and this is the kind of outcome.

I wish Camera shops where more like car dealers, where you can take the product out for a spin. That way I'd be more comfortable with the investment and I'd know how much the poor image is down to me rather than the camera  Wink
 
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:06 am

Quoting Holl3411 (Reply 4):
I wish Camera shops where more like car dealers, where you can take the product out for a spin

Some shops will hire out equipment by the day.
Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
 
9VSPO
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:07 am

Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the camera. You just need to work out what it's limitations are and use them to your advantage. As I have said in previous posts before - the first 150 or so pics of mine on here were taken with a point and shoot that wasn't much different yo your S9500. You make the photo not the camera.  Smile

It's true, having a Dslr can make a difference but on a good day with the right conditions on your side (at 1024 pixels) you wouldn't be able to tell the difference and that's down to you not the camera.  Smile
 
eadster
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:25 am

They are too big - down size. May not help for these but don't try with pics that big for your first shots - won't work.

Start at 1024pix wide and work on it from there.
 
holl3411
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RE: That Illusive First Acceptance - Advice Sought

Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:24 pm

Sorry Eadster, may be a daft question, when you say they're too big do you mean in terms of the residual quality? I was once advised to keep them to 1600 pix as it retains the quality? In which case doesn't lowering the pix lower the quality? Or am I missing the point here and I should be looking to mask the (lack of) quality?  Smile

Thanks 9VSPO, I may go back and join the crowds at MAN and get those shots going properly before next years RIAT!

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