mauriceb
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Basic Settings 350D

Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:44 pm

After 1,5 year of non-photography (aviation) im planning to pick up the cam again and go to AMS one of these days. Last week i replaced my 300D with a 350D and bought a tamron 70-300 4-5.6.

But since i was out for 1,5 year, i really don't know wich setting i need to use on my 350D.

I know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode, and 100 ISO, but which other settings do i need to use?


Looking forward to take pictures again,

greetings maurice.
 
timdegroot
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:50 pm

Hi Maurice,

Good to see you picked it up again. This topic however has been discussed to death recently, so do a forum search first if you can find the answers you're looking for.

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
i really don't know wich setting i need to use on my 350D.

The short answer would be: the same you used on your 300D.

Cheers
Tim
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mauriceb
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:16 pm

Sorry tim, i will do a search.., and i know that i have to use the same settings as my 300D, but i just sold that one, and i really have no idea....



thanks, and sorry, maurice
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:25 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 2):
thanks, and sorry, maurice

No need to be sorry mate we are all here to help.
Let me just give you a rough idea .
Usually people on this site swear by Aperture mode at f8 all in camera processing to OFF do that later yourself in PS and ISO 100.
Ofcourse it depends on the time of day as when it gets darker you can bump up the ISO a little maybe to 200 or 400 but be careful as this induces grain and noise.
Also you might want to go down in aperture when it gets dark say 7.1 or 6.3 or as low as your lens will go as far down as 2.8 if the lens can handle it.
This will keep up your shutter speed but reduce your depth of field.
Happy shooting and good luck.
Cheers
On a wing and a prayer
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:28 am

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
I know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode, and 100 ISO,

 rotfl  Why in the world would you say that?
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 4):
rotfl Why in the world would you say that?

Jeff, as far as I know, Maurice is not an über expert in shooting M-mode on JPG, as you are.
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:34 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 4):
Why in the world would you say that?

And because a few people seem to hand on those settings here, which I don't know why...
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:02 pm

Jeff forgive me, its 1,5 years since i made Aviation photos for the last time  Wink


ty all.
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:22 pm

With that lens don't go below f8 in order to get acceptable sharpness. So Av-priority at f8 - f9 is a good starting point. Watch the shutter speed and adjust the ISO number accordingly if the speed falls below [ 1 / focal length x 1,6 ].

Phil / EDDL

[Edited 2006-07-31 10:23:11]
 
viv
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:49 pm

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode,

Who told you that? And why do you believe it?

Read this thread: "Should I use a high aperture or a big shutter speed"?
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:05 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
Read this thread: "Should I use a high aperture or a big shutter speed"?

So you can get really confused...
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting EDDL (Reply 8):
[ 1 / focal length x 1,6 ].

Should you take the crop factor in account when going by this rule?

Cheers,
Sebastian
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:50 am

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 11):
Should you take the crop factor in account when going by this rule?

There are endless discussions on the topic ... IMHO you should do that.
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 10):
So you can get really confused...

Here we go again. Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

Of course, there is no antidote to invincible ignorance.
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:51 am

Quote:
Here we go again. Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

Of course, there is no antidote to invincible ignorance

Its not that i ain't intelligent, but im just not so good with photography anymore  Wink
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:31 pm

Hi Maurice,

Nice to you taking photos again. I also have the EOS350D and I use the Av-mode, f/8 (depending on light conditions) and the AI Servo mode.

How I wish to go to AMS... lucky you! Big grin

A388
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:07 am

Quote:
Hi Maurice,

Nice to you taking photos again. I also have the EOS350D and I use the Av-mode, f/8 (depending on light conditions) and the AI Servo mode.

How I wish to go to AMS... lucky you!

A388

Ty,

How i wish to go to the Antillen... Oh wait! i go in 8 day's Big grin
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:22 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence. Don't over complicate things. Are you planning on becoming a professional photographer, or is this just a hobby? Get out there, experiment and read through these forums. You'll get the hang of it.
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:44 pm

Quote:
The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence. Don't over complicate things. Are you planning on becoming a professional photographer, or is this just a hobby? Get out there, experiment and read through these forums. You'll get the hang of it.

Well , you can check out under the name DutchAviation on a.net, and you will see i did know how to do it (not that good but hey, they made it  Wink ) but 1,5 year is just very long, and i need that litle push in the beginning to get the hang of it again! Because of the weather i haven't been to AMS yet since i got my 350D, but i will go as soon as it get's better.

Anyway i will try out a bit, but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning? It might easy things up then right?

Here a link to my A.net photo's :

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...=DutchAviation&distinct_entry=true
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:06 pm

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 18):
but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning?

I would not advise that - the auto setting will give 'average' results in 'average' light.

Read this thread, which simplifies the whole business of shutter speed and aperture. It will save you a LOT of trial and error.
Should I Use A High Aperture Or A Big Shutter Spee (by Viv Jul 26 2006 in Aviation Photography)
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:54 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 18):
Anyway i will try out a bit, but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning?

Yeah, get out there and shoot! I would start in AV mode around F7-9 ISO100 and let the camera find the shutter speed for you. Start out on a good weather day with the sun to your back. Good luck!
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:58 am

Nice thread from Viv! Viv explains the terms in a good, easy to read way.

A388  Smile
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:06 pm

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 17):
The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence

Agreed, but the ability to understand written instructions and to learn from them is. That is what I said.
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:53 pm

Hi ViV!

Really good thread for us beginners, cannot wait for the continuation (ISO, WB, etc.)! Just ignore non-constructive comments  covereyes  !

I also just recently bought a 350, and continue playing around to get used to it. Only thing I would say is that just "go AV with f8" doesn't really help too much. At least at the beginning I would start with Viv's thread, and then would go out and shot many pictures of same object with all different settings (I did it with a water fountain) to see the results. Then, I would move to an airport and try first AV (ISO 100, Servo, Auto WB, JPG large fine, Parameters set at 0 but sharpness at +1) with f8 on a medium light day (sunny with clouds) and see resulting speed - if planes are moving (i.e. flying), then below 1/200 I could not get decent results. If there is less light (overcast), then you need to go down on f (up on aperture) to as much as needed to keep speed at your target. If you are at lowest possible f and speed goes below your target, it's time to go home and let the pro's take pictures under such light! And if light is good (bright sunny day), you can try going up with f to maybe 12, but then I would watch speed since you can use this light for going to highest speeds. OK?  sun 

As somebody already said, that's only my  twocents  !
Just sit back, relax and have a glass of Merlot...enjoy your life!
 
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RE: Basic Settings 350D

Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:01 pm

Quoting Acontador (Reply 23):
Really good thread for us beginners, cannot wait for the continuation (ISO, WB, etc.)!

Thank you kind Sir.

Your approach is basically what I did when I was learning: (a) know the theory (b) shoot a lot of shots, changing one variable at a time, and see what works.
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