Stealthz
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5D Or 30D?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:45 pm

Hi all,
Just searched the most recent camera listing thread, there were not to many 5D users in that list, just wondering if there are many more since that time.

I have a couple of questions-
Why did you choose it over the 30D(or whatever other camera you were considering)?
Has it lived up to your expectations?
Are there any failings that you deel should be considered.

EF-S question for those with a combination of EF-S & EF bodies, I know the EF-S lenses won't work on the EF bodies but will they mount and damage the body or lens or is there something obvious preventing them mounting.
I do some work where rushed lens changes occur, sometimes in low light and don't want to damage equipment by forcing the wrong lens.

Cheers

Chris
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flyingzacko
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:54 pm

Quoting StealthZ (Thread starter):

EF-S question for those with a combination of EF-S & EF bodies, I know the EF-S lenses won't work on the EF bodies but will they mount and damage the body or lens or is there something obvious preventing them mounting.

Hi Chris,

just tried mounting an EF-S 18-55mm on an old EOS 300 (analog) body with only EF mount. It simply won't mount, easy as that. Hope that helps you a little at least.

Cheers,
Sebastian
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:32 pm

Hi Chris,

Quoting StealthZ (Thread starter):
Why did you choose it over the 30D(or whatever other camera you were considering)?

The 30D was not yet available at the time when I bought my 5D. So I could not have chosen it over the 30D.

Quoting StealthZ (Thread starter):
Has it lived up to your expectations?

All in all the 5D is an excellent camera! But for aviation photography I would prefer the 30D (and save about 1000 Euros!!) except you want to print large images - for large prints the 5D is the better choice because of the full frame sensor.

Quoting StealthZ (Thread starter):
Are there any failings that you deel should be considered.

The most frustrating failing is IMO the vignetting problem. Look at this thread: http://www2.airliners.net/discussion...tion_photography/read.main/241554/

And this thread could also be helpful for you: Canon 5D Or Future Canon Cameras. (by Res Jul 12 2006 in Aviation Photography)

cheers,
Bjoern
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:23 pm

Hi Chris - I upgraded from a 300D to a 5D about a year ago. Of course the 30D was not out at the time so it was a straight choice between the 5 and the 20. I spent weeks reading up on them both, chatting to my local dealer etc. My conclusion was I really liked the full frame sensor on the 5 and that a 300mm lens would be a 300mm lens, or a 14mm would be 14mm! In addition the view finder was much bigger than the one on the 20. Of course it also has over 12m pixels, some 50% more than the 20 and 30.

Since then I've taken thousands of shots with the 5, which in combination with a couple of L series lenses have given me great results. Yes I would like it to take more frames per second but its not critical in my view.

I've since bought a 30D to use as a second body and there is no doubt that the crop effect due to the smaller sensor is very useful in aviation photography. When I compare the two it all comes down to the full frame sensor and what it gives you. We've just had several major airshows here in the UK and it was so useful using the 2 bodies with a good combination of lenses, as you were ready for any event. I shot loads of the Airbus 380 at farnboro with 5D from side of runway with a 70 -200 attached no problem. Equally, the fighters were taken with the 30 and a 300mm f4 L lens.

In conclusion, I would say that if you have the money to buy a 5 it is likely to better spent buying a 30 and getting an L series lens such as the 100 -400 or the 70-200. If you've already got the lenses I'd buy the 5.

Hope this is of use.

Best wishes
Garry
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:57 pm

If you're buying the 5D, I do not think that the 100-400 would be good as of its vignetting. - or am I wrong about that? -

I think the 30D would be a better buy as of its faster continous speed (4.9 fps.). and as of the crop factor, so vignetting isn't as noticable as on the 5D.

If there's anything wrong what I said here above, please let me know.
 
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:16 am

I chose the 30D over the 5D for several reasons:

1) I wanted the 24-105mm F/4 L IS to go with it, it was just as important to me as getting another body. Regardless of what people might think, I still do have a budget to stick to; it’s a constant balancing act between equipment and trips. I could buy the Canon 300 F/2.8 L IS or a 1 series body, but then I wont be able to use it because I don’t have the $$ to go anywhere. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

2) I told myself that if I was going to pay for the 5D, I might as well go all out and buy the 1D, and stuck to that thinking. My next camera will be a 1 series, eventually.

3) I did research and the 30D reviews were great. Some people got bad copies, including me; I sent it back and got another one. This one is fine. I am totally satisfied.

It’s all about what suits your needs. I think a 30D would be just fine for you. Get some L glass to go with it.
 
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:20 am

Thanks all for your comments..

Decisions, if my only photography requirement was aviation then the 30D would be a slam dunk... If the 5D was a few hundred dollars maybe a thousand cheaper then that would be an easy choice as well.

I guess when it boils down Chad's argument is pretty convincing so the 30D will likely get the nod.

Cheers all

Chris
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:30 am

Chris,

I apologize if I missed it before but what gear do you have now?
 
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:41 am

I've had the 30D for 2 months now and have nothing but fantastic things to say about it. The new LCD screen (as opposed to the 20D) is great in all sorts of lighting, and the picture quality is top notch. I also considered the 5D but the final price was my determining factor, and I'm not disappointed one bit.

I do alot of cropped, framed photography, and all my prints, regardless of how large have been fantastic. Unless you're making enough money off your photography to warrant a 5D I'd say at this point it's overkill. Wait for a significant price drop or go straight with the 30D and be just as happy!
 
Stealthz
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:17 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 7):
I apologize if I missed it before but what gear do you have now?

Hi Chad,
A 10D and D30 (an EOS 50 in a cupboard that doesn't see much action)
Sigma 50-500EX, Canon 28-135IS and 20-35.. oh and an aging Canon 100-300 that is on TDY with a freinds 350D.

And yes you (and others) make a good point the 30D over the 5D will leave me AUD$2,500 closer to some L glass
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:36 am

Easy....

30D and a new lens over a 5D.
Far better for Aviation with crop, and 5fps continuous is a bonus for low light shots.
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:41 am

Chris,

I would sell the 28-135mm, and put the money toward a 24-105mm F/4 L IS. I tell you, its a dream. You are pretty much set after that. Maybe go for a prime 300 2.8 as you next major purchase?  

[Edited 2006-08-03 04:42:21]
 
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:46 pm

Hey guys,

For all of you 30D users out there, what improvements have you found over the 20D?

Cheers,
Justin  Smile
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RE: 5D Or 30D?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:59 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 11):
24-105mm F/4 L IS. I tell you, its a dream

Amen to that! Now i have a good copy of it i love it!

Went to the store today to get them to exchange mine and they did no problem, shots some pics on the way home and they are fantastic!

My main walkabout lens on my film cameras and my 1d now. The 17-40 stays as the 10D walkabout.

Chris
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