lufthansi
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Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:10 am

Hello to all good editors!

I just shot a few pics at CDG during sunset and was very upset with the results. I know that the best editor with the best editing tools can not save a bad picture. So can you please try to edit the following one like I want to add it to a.net!? Screeners, don't panic! I won't put this poor one into the queue!!! I just would like to see what profis can do with PhotoShopII/Elements.

Original:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/IMG_6717.jpg
My edit:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/IMG_6717new.jpg

Thank's in advance for showing your skills!

Stephan
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:15 am

Hi Stephan,

Maybe I am wrong, but I feel the original photo looks a bit out of focus. If so, Photoshop may not save it.

_Hongyin_
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:28 am

You mean i focused on a wrong part (the wheels for example) and this makes the whole thing unsharp? So sharpening with some editing toll can not fix it?
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:34 am

Quoting Lufthansi (Reply 2):
So sharpening with some editing toll can not fix it?

I just see the plane is not in focus, or it's just a little bit too soft. And giving more sharpening may produce jaggies. I could give it a try in my PS CS2, and show the post-process image here later on.

_Hongyin_  wave 
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:38 am

Thank you very much for your help!

Just some more hints:

- There's a dirt spot right before the upper tail. (I tried to clone it away)
- The colours seem to be strange to me. To much green or blue instead of red.
- I already rotated the pic in my edit.
- Maybe you can see if my sharpening in the edit produced "jaggies"!?
- the left and right side seem to be darker than the middle

And can you tell me how to avoid this "out of focus"? Any special camera setting or a steady hand? What am I doing wrong? You can see my gear in my profile.

Once again thank you!!!

[Edited 2006-08-22 21:41:32]
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:45 am

I just read through some other rejection reports in this forum and came along the idea to "remove green for more life". So I did:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/IMG_6717new-1.jpg
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:49 am

Hi Stephan,

As I am still at working now, I just gave a very rough edit to your image. I simply resized it as 1024 x 683, and adjusted the brightness, etc., and gave some sharpening.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 478kb


It might be slightly better than it looks like now, if I had some more time to spend on it. It doesn't look bad, does it?

Still some worries to this image: too strong yellow cast, a bit dark, and a little soft.

_Hongyin_  wave 
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting Lufthansi (Reply 4):
And can you tell me how to avoid this "out of focus"? Any special camera setting or a steady hand? What am I doing wrong? You can see my gear in my profile.

What aperture did you use? If it was too low, the depth of field would be too narrow. A narrow DOF would result in some parts of the plane being out of focus.
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:00 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 7):
What aperture did you use?

I think Stephan was using f/8.
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:07 am

Stephan
I also tried to have a go at it but could not convince myself i had the centering correct.
Bubbles has done a great job with it but to me it looks low in the frame.
I tried to crop the wing tip out to center it correctly but then you lose size as the original file is small when i cropped it i came to a size that is just under the 1024 size limit
I would post the edit here but i feel that i have not done justice to the shot.
Also agree with Bubbles that the shot is slightly soft in appearance but certainly savable so dont worry about that aspect of things.
IMO a D30 as much as its a great camera ,for aviation photography it just doesn't give you much margin for error.
Plus the original is 1440-960 so it wont leave you much room to crop
Cheers

[Edited 2006-08-22 22:09:11]
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:17 am


Something looked odd with the wheels, but I fixed that

edit: spelling

[Edited 2006-08-22 22:21:17]
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Agill (Reply 10):

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 
Rules are for the obedience of fools but for the guidance of wise men
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:42 am

What the...  eyepopping   rotfl  My wheels are gone!

And FAIR FRANCE??? What does it mean?  idea 
You guys are cool! bigthumbsup  Come on over and let's have a beer or something like that! And after that we watch FedEx slamming down their MD11s on this very special runway.

Just like those today: (You don't need to try to edit it...)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/IMG_6627.jpg

To JumboJim747:

Great to hear from fellows at Australia!!!



[Edited 2006-08-22 22:52:46]
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting Agill (Reply 10):
Something looked odd with the wheels, but I fixed that

Not to be picky, but shouldn't they be frog legs????
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:12 am

Quoting Lufthansi (Reply 12):

And FAIR FRANCE??? What does it mean? idea

Well it means that after 10 minutes of photoshopping I just got lazy and stopped in the middle of being silly. I had some funny idea about it but now it's slipped my mind.

Quoting Wannabe (Reply 13):
Not to be picky, but shouldn't they be frog legs????

Have you ever actually seen a french frog? Their legs look very similar to those of an aquatic bird  Smile
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:26 am

I couldn't find any onions. Big grin

 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:25 am

Hm... Will I get through the screening after all your support?
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:30 pm

The AF 318 looks like it has a case of incurable heat haze.....
 
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RE: Show Me The Advantage Of PhotoShop On This One!

Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:25 pm

I agree that the original pic is a bit out of focus, and your edit resulted blurry. Good capture, Stephan, though.
The edit from Bubbles is great but maybe a little oversharpened, IMHO.

Very funny edits, guys! LOL Big grin

Cheers!
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