Avro85
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Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Is the motiv on the following picture acceptable or not ? And are there any other possible flaws with the picture ?

I hope to hear some good news  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HB-IXH_01.jpg

Chris
 
dazbo5
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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:38 pm

I'm not sure about the motive, whether its acceptable or not (I like it, its a nice formation shot), but it looks unlevel to me. The photo looks like its leaning to the left. I think you need to rotate it clockwise if you can without cropping off the tail of the first aircraft. It also might be a bit dark (having suffered many of these recently myself!).

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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:56 pm

Hi Chris,
The motive seems ok to me, but

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
I think you need to rotate it clockwise

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Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
It also might be a bit dark

 checkmark  The birds are totally in the shadow...

I also have a strange "feeling" about "Center". Just my immediate perception.

Cheers
Patrick
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Avro85
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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:00 am

Thanks for the feedback so far.

I tried to correct the level issue.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HB-IXH_02.jpg

However the photo is still dark. But would this be a problem ? I mean all the picture is in the shadow and everything is clearly visible ?

Chris
 
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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:49 am

Hi Chris,

Firstly nice photo, a good capture!

It now appears to be stright in my opinion. Regarding the dark, it was taken in a shadow so it might be ok  Smile

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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:29 am

Thanks Cosmic.

I think I'll keep the second one in the queue and cross the fingers  Wink

Here I have another one where I'm quite unsure whether or not the motiv would be acceptable......

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/EI-DMk_04.jpg

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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:34 am

Hi Chris.

My comment on the first would be that I would fear for a rejection. The first thing I noticed, even with the second edit, is the effect of the heat haze caused by the jet efflux. I think that is having a detrimental effect on the quality, from an A.net point of view. I also think it is still a bit gloomy.

As regards the second, you might be playing with 'motive' fire there   . I think it carries a significant risk.

All the best.

Paul

[Edited 2006-08-29 23:37:16]
 
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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Avro85 (Thread starter):
I hope to hear some good news

I saved a bunch of money on car insurance Big grin just kidding.

It is a nice capture. Just make sure to refer HB-IXH on your upload (which I believe you did). It sure looks dark coz of the shadow area...did you try to play it around?

The second picture might yield a bad motive though...do you have the same with the tail included?

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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:56 am

Hey Paul it's been a long time....

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
The first thing I noticed, even with the second edit, is the effect of the heat haze caused by the jet efflux. I think that is having a detrimental effect on the quality, from an A.net point of view.

Now that you mention it, I agree that the exhaust can be seen as detrimental on the picture. I will try to see if I can find a better picture in the series which I took.

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 7):
It sure looks dark coz of the shadow area...did you try to play it around?

Yes I tried to play around with the levels, but if I play too much the quality is decreasing quite rapidely.... If only the sun would have been at the right place  Wink

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
As regards the second, you might be playing with 'motive' fire there

Let's hope the screener who will screen the picture will be gentle  Wink

Chris
 
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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:03 am

I would go with motive on the 2nd one, sorry.

First one is a no for me too, motive is ok but it's dark and heathazed.

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RE: Motiv Ok Or Not? ... Advice Needed!

Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:08 am

OK thanks for your answer Tim.You don't need to be sorry  Wink

I'll pull them right away and hope to get a better chance to reproduce those motives in the future.

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Chris

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